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Offline tarnee

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Trying Again
« on: Monday 23 August 10 02:07 BST (UK) »
For years now l have been stuck finding my boys great grandfather nothing really is known about him only that his name was Frank Wall last time around with the help of other here we could find no trail of Frank's birth or family.

l knew Frank was in the Navy and have obtained his records again no family is listed what is listed in his papers is as follows

Frank Wall born 24 June 1876 Marylebone  This has not help in the search for Frank.

Today on FreeBMD there is a Vivian Francis Wall born Sept 1/4 1876 Kensington l do not know if this is the one l am after but l have to follow just incase this is the Frank l am after all others have led to a dead end (sorry no pun intended).

l could not find him in 1881/91/ is there any kind person who could help me find Frank as our tree is very lopsided :)

Many thanks
Jean
in Australia

There is no more information l can add sorry
Graham, Grundy, Wilson:- Birkenhead
Graham, Sharp, Hodgson, Sherwen:- Workington
Fulford,Braithwaite,Blanchard,Hackforth,Ward,White:- Lincolnshire
Seaby, Cockerill:- Northamptonshire.
Wiseman,Smith:- Warwickshire
Upton, Gentle:- Oxfordshire, Gloucestershire.
Wall, Curtis, Felts, Thoms:- Bedfordshire.
Davis, Smallman:- Shropshire.
Wilcox:- Worcestershire.
Young, Renwick:- Berwick upon Tweed.
Plante:- Stafford, Warwickshire.

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Re: Trying Again
« Reply #1 on: Monday 23 August 10 02:15 BST (UK) »


Hi Jean

This is the baptism of Vivan Francis Wall....

Baptism Record
St Peter Cranley Gardens
Kensington and Chelsea

Vivian Francis of Abiather and Isabella Sarah Vivian WALL of 46 Norfolk Terrace.  Born 21 June 1876  Baptised 7 Aug 1876.  Father's occupation Surgeon.

Will see what else I can dig up ( so to speak ) on this person.

Cheers
Karenlee
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Re: Trying Again
« Reply #2 on: Monday 23 August 10 02:19 BST (UK) »
Vivian Francis WALL married in 1908 ..to Charlotte Frances K MORRIS.

There is a probate record for this man too... in 1933, his widow was Charlotte Frances Ada Kelvington Wall

Does that help at all...??

Cheers
Karenlee

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Re: Trying Again
« Reply #3 on: Monday 23 August 10 02:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Tarnee.

Is there any possibility this could be him? Kentish Town isn't all that far from Marylebone.

1881 Census - 12 Tadema Rd, Chelsea.

RG11/75/48 p 35

Charles Wall 40 yrs, Builder, b. Darley, Derbyshire.
Hannah R. ‘’ 36 yrs, b. Warwick.
Frank Wall 6 yrs, b. Kentish Town.
Dora Wall 2 yrs b. Kensington
Emma Tansley Servant
Emily Roper Nurse
Rev. Samuel Dyall (Father in Law) 74 yrs b. Coventry.
Rebecca Dyall (Mother in Law) 76 yrs b. Coventry
Josiah Dyall (Nephew) 13 yrs b. Matlock.
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Re: Trying Again
« Reply #4 on: Monday 23 August 10 02:22 BST (UK) »
In 1901 Vivian F WALL is a student of medicine living with his family in London.  This is looking less and less like the man you are after I think.

Cheers
Karenlee
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Re: Trying Again
« Reply #5 on: Monday 23 August 10 03:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Karenlee,

l am afraid you are right l know my Frank was in the navy by then, l had found another Wall born at the right time a John Thomas but l could not see were the name Frank fitted in and on his Navy papers it was just Frank Wall.

Over the years l have followed every lead l could and am still searching, l just clutch at anything that might lead me in the right direction.

Hi Finbar,

l followed that Frank but did not really find a connection to the family, Frank never spoke about his family even to his son its a subject that remains a mystery hence my search and to try again.

my thanks to you both
Tarnee



Graham, Grundy, Wilson:- Birkenhead
Graham, Sharp, Hodgson, Sherwen:- Workington
Fulford,Braithwaite,Blanchard,Hackforth,Ward,White:- Lincolnshire
Seaby, Cockerill:- Northamptonshire.
Wiseman,Smith:- Warwickshire
Upton, Gentle:- Oxfordshire, Gloucestershire.
Wall, Curtis, Felts, Thoms:- Bedfordshire.
Davis, Smallman:- Shropshire.
Wilcox:- Worcestershire.
Young, Renwick:- Berwick upon Tweed.
Plante:- Stafford, Warwickshire.

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Re: Trying Again
« Reply #6 on: Monday 23 August 10 03:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Jean,

Did Frank marry, and do you have a marriage cert. for him?  This should state his father's name...
(I say "should" because sometimes it doesn't, and sometimes there is a name but it's an invented or imagined one).


Cheers
Prue

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Re: Trying Again
« Reply #7 on: Monday 23 August 10 03:22 BST (UK) »
Hi

What do you have regarding Frank's marriage details if anything??

Cheers
Karenlee

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Re: Trying Again
« Reply #8 on: Monday 23 August 10 03:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Prue,

No Frank did not marry either partners l have exhausted all those avenues in my search the only paper trail there was is his Navy papers which as l said do not contain his parents names only date of birth and were, l had even thought about him being from an orphange, somewhere their must be a record of him but maybe l/we will never know but in the meantime l have to keep trying.

Tarnee
Graham, Grundy, Wilson:- Birkenhead
Graham, Sharp, Hodgson, Sherwen:- Workington
Fulford,Braithwaite,Blanchard,Hackforth,Ward,White:- Lincolnshire
Seaby, Cockerill:- Northamptonshire.
Wiseman,Smith:- Warwickshire
Upton, Gentle:- Oxfordshire, Gloucestershire.
Wall, Curtis, Felts, Thoms:- Bedfordshire.
Davis, Smallman:- Shropshire.
Wilcox:- Worcestershire.
Young, Renwick:- Berwick upon Tweed.
Plante:- Stafford, Warwickshire.