FreckNeale's Scavenger Hunt...Everyone Welcome To Join In

[jaywit]

Do you have Henry's marriage certificate? If so who were the witness? they may just give a clue to his mother.

[jaywit]

Another thought On 1841 neither Frances or her sister Sarah are shown as working, so presumably their father was earning enough to keep them.

Have you followed Sarah through later years?

Also who were the parents of Mary who was living with them?

[jaywit]

Who were the parents of the 3 Frecknell boys living in Worksop with Isaac and Lyddia Radford in 1851, the youngest one says born Southwell c1844?

HO107; Piece: 2122; Folio: 154; Page: 15;

[jaywit]

Looking at Frances Johnson in the asylum in 1861 whatever was written in the marital status column has been crossed through, maybe they were unsure of her marital status.

[Alexander.]

Do you have Henry's marriage certificate? If so who were the witness? they may just give a clue to his mother.

Norwell St. Laurence PR:

No.: 48
Date: March 9th 1846
Names: Henry Fricknell & Sarah Wilson
Ages: Of full age & Of full age
Condition: Bachelor & Spinster
Profession: Tailor & Dressmaker
Residence: Norwell & Norwell
Fathers' Names: --- & Thomas Wilson
Fathers' Professions: --- & Farmer

Witnesses: Elizabeth Wilson, Barnabas Williamson

I've no clue who Barnabas Williamson was, but I think that Elizabeth Wilson was Sarah's mother.

Another thought On 1841 neither Frances or her sister Sarah are shown as working, so presumably their father was earning enough to keep them.

Have you followed Sarah through later years?

Also who were the parents of Mary who was living with them?

Mary was the illegitimate daughter of Sarah. Sarah also had another daughter Ann who was born in 1827 and died in 1828. Later on Sarah married William Shipley in 1853 at Nottingham St. Mary. She died in 1868.

Who were the parents of the 3 Frecknell boys living in Worksop with Isaac and Lyddia Radford in 1851, the youngest one says born Southwell c1844?

HO107; Piece: 2122; Folio: 154; Page: 15;

These three children were the sons of William Merrills Frecknall and Elizabeth Nelson. They were of a branch of Frecknalls that came from the North Leverton/Retford/Worksop areas. They are distantly related to Frances - though I haven't been able to work out the exact relationship. It may be a coincidence that they both ended up in Southwell.

[teaurn]

If you look on google at upton Southwell you can see a workhouse listed.  I went in for a closer look and there is a fantastic shot of the workhouse.

I found this on it is near Upton but Upton Retford.  It is the only Frances who is listed as a widow that jumped out at me.


1851 census RG number: HO107      Piece: 2122      Folio:  280      Page:  10         
 
Address: Mill Cottage, Carlton In Lindrick
County: Nottinghamshire
 
JOHNSON, Fanny Mother Widow  F 50 1801 Dary Maid  Rampton
Nottinghamshire
JOHNSON, Sarah Daughter   F 15 1836 Scholar  Carlton
Nottinghamshire

[jaywit]

If Sarah married after the death of both of her parents who were the witnesses at her marriage?

I'll look for the witnesses of Henry's marriage later.

[Alexander.]

Here's Sarah's marriage information:

Nottingham St. Mary:

Date: 5 Jan 1853
Names: William Shipley & Sarah Frecknall
Ages: Full age & Full age
Condition: Widower & Spinster
Profession: Bricklayer & ---
Residence: Holland Street & Holland Street
Fathers' Names: William Shipley & David Frecknall
Fathers' Professions: Cordwainer Dec & Tailor Dec

Signed: William Shipley, Sarah Frecknall X her mark
Witnesses: Thomas Porter X his mark, Anne Porter X her mark

Not sure if/how the Porters are related.

[Alexander.]

I just noticed that Henry (Frances's son) named his first son Henry, and his second one Charles. Third son named Thomas after his wife's father. Charles is a name that hadn't been used in the family before, so maybe it could indicate that this was Henry's father's name. Fourth son who died in infancy was called William (if they were being systematic about naming, this could be after his wife's grandfather).

I know it's not proof but it could be a clue.