John CHRISTIE, Ireland to Scotland- completed

[MonicaL]

Hi Aghadowey and Carole

I also had a look last night - too late for me to make any sense in my head! Have to agree with all the Carole has found on the Scottish censuses. Apart from the two possible entries that Carole has found (John and Dora, John and Jane) nothing much else stood out.

Just in case, the family never left for Scotland, searching for Cissie which is less common, there was this entry in 1911 Ireland www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001422999/

Monica

[yokerbrian]

1901

334 Mathieson St , Hutchesontown, Glasgow Govan  Lanarkshire

John Christie 46 Locomotive Boiler Tuber
Dora Christie 48
Annie Christie 23 Bond Store Worker
John Christie 22 Locomotive Shop Labourer
Dora Christie 18 Cotton Weaver
Maggie Christie 12 Scholar

Parish: Glasgow Govan; ED: 51; Page:  28; Line: 11; Roll  CSSCT1901_310; Year: 1901.

[MonicaL]

Hi Brian 

This looks to be the family that Carole found earlier and which Aghadowey has managed to discount now from the marriage cert for John and Dora in 1876.

Monica

[sancti]

Interesting record for 1901

Name: John Christie
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Annie

Where born: Paisley, Renfrewshire
 
Registration district: Paisley
Civil parish: Paisley
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 10 Lady Lane
Occupation: Teacher Of Wood Work

[sancti]

Forgot the rest of the family

John Christie 45
Annie Christie 45
John Christie 18
Jessie Christie 17
Susan Christie 12
Annie Christie 10
 
 

[MonicaL]

Found one more entry Sancti  

Just putting down this 1901 census entry. Lots fit but lots doesn't. We have at least three possible names from the list of children you have Aghadowey - Janet/Jessie, James, Andrew.

John Christie 41, gardener b. Maybole Ayrshire
Isabella Christie 38, b. Edinburgh
Janet Christie 8 b. Bothwell
Susan G Christie 6 b. Bothwell
James Christie 5 b. Bothwell
Andrew H Christie 2 b. Bothwell
Joseph Kirkpatrick 21, boarder
Wm Bannerman 22, boarder

Address: Greenrig St, Bothwell Lanarkshire

Found this family as a birth I found on general searches on SP is likely to be for them. The Susan above I think was born in 1894 in Lanarkshire and is indexed as Susan Gilmour Christie - which I thought might connect with John's mother.

I cannot find an IGI birth in Maybole for this John. Also, can't easily see him in the earlier censuses except 1891, where he shows as Maybole born and a gardener at the Kirklands Lunatic Asylum in Bothwell, aged 29.

Monica

Added: The Isabella above I think is Isabella Henderson, born on 18 APR 1862 in Edinburgh to Andrew Henderson and Janet Beveridge. Isabella shows in the Bothwell 1891 census as a servant at the Kirklands Lunatic Asylum, where John Christie above was also working.

[MonicaL]

Blimey  I think it is the right John!

John Christie married Isabella Henderson in August 1892 in Rutherglen (Church of Scotland). His residence shows as the Bothwell Asylum, aged 32 and a gardener by occupation. His parents James Christie, a forester and deceased and mother Susan Gilmour, also deceased.

Parents for Isabella as we had from IGI, with father an Iron Moulder journeyman. Likely Henderson family were witnesses, a John and Annie Henderson.

Monica

[MonicaL]

I am thinking perhaps the daughter Cissie, could have been a pet name for Susan b. 1894.

Monica

[MonicaL]

Some census info on the Hendersons. Isabella looks to be the only one of the children born in Edinburgh, all the rest look to have been born in Old Monkland going by IGI:

1871:

Andrew Henderson 36, iron moulder b. Dumfriesline (Dunfermline?), Fifeshire
Jannet Henderson 37 b. Dunfermline, Fifeshire
Jannet Henderson 11 b. Coatbridge
Isabella Henderson 8 b. Edinburgh
Hellen Henderson 6 b. Coatbridge
John Henderson 3 b. Coatbridge
Ann Henderson 1 b. Coatbridge

Address: Hamilton Road, Whifflet, Old Monkland Eastern District

1881:

Andrew Henderson 45, Iron Moulder Steelworks b. Dunfermline, Fifeshire
Janet Beveridge Or Henderson 46
Janet Henderson 21
Helen Henderson 16
John Henderson 13
Ann Henderson 10
Andrew Henderson 7 b. Cambuslang
Gracie Henderson 4 b. Cambuslang

Address: Main St 10 Morriston Buildgs, Cambuslang Lanarkshire

Monica