Birth enquiry COMPLETED

[hiraeth]

1881 Peny  Braich, Tre’Garth Llandegai
RG11/Piece 5577/Folio 68/Page 24
Morris OWENS, age 29, married, Quarryman, b Llandegai Carnarvonshire
Jane OWENS, age 35, wife, b Llandegai (at the end of long column of “do”s !!)

1891 Census Llandegai
Pen y Braich
Morris Owen 37  b Llandegai
Jane Owen   45  b Rhoscolyn Ang
Elizabeth Ann  8  b Rhoscolyn Ang

1901 Penbraich Tregarth
Morris Owen, 48, Slate Quarryman b Carnarvon Llandegai
Jane Owen, 55, wife, b Anglesea Llanfairynghornwy (8 miles NE of Holyhead)
Elizabeth Ann Owen, 18, occ Dressmaker, b Carnarvon Llandegai

possible death of Jane Owen Mar Q 1905, age 59 + corresponding parish burial (ie no MI) at Gelli Mar 26, 1905 for a Jane Owen of Braichtalog no age recorded

[hiraeth]

1851 Tynygongol Rhoscolyn Anglesey
Parkia Rhoscolyn is two eumerator pages away on Page 10 with different tenants
ref HO107/Piece2522/Folio354/Page8
Robert HUGHES, mar, age 41, blacksmith, born Anglesey Llanbedairgoch
Elizabeth Hughes, wife, age 29,  b Anglesey Llanbedairgoch
Hugh Hughes, son, age 13, born Anglesey Llangoed
John Hughes, son, age 8, born Anglesey Llangoed
Jane Hughes, dau, age 6, born Anglesey Llanfairneubwll (Chapelry – part of parish of Rhoscolyn)

1861 Parkia Isaf Rhoscolyn Anglesey
ref RG9/Piece4373/Folio5/Page7
Robert HUGHES, mar, age 53, Ag Lab, born Anglesey Llanbedergoch (East Coast of ANG, NE of Red Wharf Bay)
Elizabeth Hughes, wife, age 40, born Anglesey Llechylched  (just East of Llanfair yn eubwll)
Margaret Hughes, dau, age 8, born Anglesey Rhoscolyn
Anne Hughes, dau, age 4, born Anglesey Rhoscolyn

1871 Parkia Rhoscolyn Anglesey
ref RG10/Piece5754/Folio24/Page1
Robert Hughes, mar, age 69, Labourer, born Llanbedair Ang
Elisabeth Hughes, wife, age 49, born Rhoscolyn Ang
Ann Hughes, dau, age 14, born Rhoscolyn Ang
Cathrine Hughes, dau, age 7, born Rhoscolyn Ang

1881 Parkia Rhoscolyn Anglesey
ref  RG11/Piece5595/Folio80/Page7
Richard  Hughes, mar, age 80, b Beaumaris Ang
Elizabeth Hughes, wife, age 58, b Rhoscolyn Ang
Jane Jones, mother, widow, age 90 b Rhoscolyn Ang
John Cannon, Gson, unm, age 6, place of birth blank

[hiraeth]

1881 Isallt Fawr, Holyhead
RG11; Piece: 5595; Folio: 46; Page: 5
Ellen Owens head age 60, farmer occ 30 acres, b Rhoscolyn
Robert Williams, servant, age 38, agric labourer, b Holyhead
Catherine Hughes, servant, age 18, General Servant (domestic) b Rhoscolyn

I asked our friend DW from Anglesey List to look for any illegitimate birth regs of an Elizabeth or Elizabeth Anns in Rhoscolyn 1882/1883 possibly with connection to Parkia and this is what he found:

HUGHES   Elizabeth   .(no father)    Catherine   HUGHES    5-Dec 1882  Parkia, Rhoscolyn
Registered by Robert HUGHES, occupier, Parkia, Rhoscolyn
HUGHES   Ceturah   Robert      Elizabeth   JONES   22-Aug 1863 Parcia, Rhoscolyn
HUGHES   Margaret   Robert      Elizabeth   JONES   2-Mar 1853  Parcia, Rhoscolyn
Both were registered by their mother and he is a labourer

Rhoscolyn is located on Holy Island.  It is quite a small area, populated by smallholdings.  I think Jane and Morris adopted Jane's younger sister Catherine's illegitimate child.  Perhaps they added the name Ann in memory of Morris' mother.

Obviously you need more research to conclusively prove out this theory. Finding Jane's baptism/birth c1845 at Rhoscolyn/Llanfairyneubwll - possibly as a JONES, d/o Elizabeth for a start.   But I do think this possible solution to your puzzle is worth some consideration.

As a matter of interest, who were the witnesses on the 1875 Rhoscolyn marriage?

[eirwen]

Hi Heather  am astonished with all the information which you have found.The Morris Owen in the 1841/51 census is indeed the father of Morris Owen who married Jane in 1875 the witnesses to this marriage were Morris Owen and Robert Hughes and the date was 29th March 1875.I have the death of Jane 23rd March 1905  . Morris then left North Wales and moved to Porth South Wales to live near his daughter [adopted ?] .Morris remarried a Margaret Thomas on 26th Dec 1906 and died on 8th March 1932 in Ynyshir . I cannot thankyou and you friend for all the assistance you have given me. Will now take time to digest it all, but my gut feeling is that you have solved my "brick wall" after about 8yrs. Regards Alun.

[Morganllan]

Looks very promising, and I must congratulate Heather on her sterling research. Hope it turns out to be the solution to your brickwall, Eirwen. 

[eirwen]

Hi  Heather  If I had any hair it would now be grey. Have  found the following  Jane Jones born 11/8/44 at Ty'n y lon, LLanfairyeubll to mother Elizabeth Jones no father mentioned.I believe this would explain that that the Jane who married Morris was not the daughter of Robert Hughes but the illegitimate daughter of the Elizabeth who he married.This would explain why she was Jane Jones when she married Morris.  Alun.

[hiraeth]

If I had any hair it would now be grey.  Alun.

 

Hi Alun

I'm sorry if this scandalous news but an interesting find nonetheless      What would really help now would be to find a marriage at Llanfairyneubwll between an Elizabeth Jones, spinster, and Robert Hughes, widower, mid 1840s.    Will try to find out and post results.

Heather

[eirwen]

Hi Everyone Latest update. Have now located the marriage of Robert Hughes, blacksmith also a widower to a Elizabeth Jones , spinster on 12/2/1850 parish church, LLanyghenedl. At the time Elizabeth was living at Ty'n Tynwyn and her father was Hugh Jones labourer. Without all your help I do not believe I would have ever discovered all the  information relating to my ancestors for which I am extremely grateful. Regards Alun.

[hiraeth]

Great outcome Alun 

Heather