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[001uk]

Vinnie, maybe.

I take it you don't know who they are.

I think it's more like Timmie.
Alas, I don't know anything about the Stoyles or Lees.

[001uk]

I checked the England/Wales on line 1901 census and I could not find a STOYLE in Bedwelty, Wales!
Please would you give further details
Thanks

[001uk]

Sorry, I'm forgetting what has already been mentioned.  Has anyone tried to find out if there was a Frank Stoyle in England c1910?

Hi Lisa,

According to the on line 1911 census for England/Wales these were the only two males that fit with the name Frank/Francis:

STOYLE FRANCIS VICTOR born 1900 age 11 East Stonehouse Devonshire
STOYLE LESLIE FRANK born 1907 age 4 Tavistock Devonshire

[001uk]

Hi Erato:

I'm just trying to research other avenues, since Stoyle & Lee apparently don't want to be found.  I was wondering if any of the people mentioned on the postcard were other Stoyle family members.

I agree, if we knew the connection to 001uk's family, it might help.

I suspect they were.
My family has no connection at all with the Stoyles or Lees.I know zero about them!
My money is on Ted being the chap in the photo!

[001uk]

I don't think this has been mentioned...is it possible to enlarge the man's face, so we may guess his age?   I think you at one time mentioned one or two people in the window?  I cannot see them; would it be possible to enlarge that?

Finally, does the man have any identifying items on him: a pin in his jacket, a pocket watch, etc.?

Ted mentions I have done this, I have done that - perhaps he could be Stoyle, since his name is first (on the sign)?    Again, this may have been mentioned, but Tom is manager, so possibly he might be Lee and not Stoyle (if Tom is even one of them!).

Is that a mailbox on the gate?  On second thought, perhaps the gate is open and the "mailbox" is on the inside of the gate.

Face scanned at 12800dpi the highest on my scanner.Still doesn't come up that well.
He's wearing a collar which is typical with a slightly older person than that of the date of the postcard. So, I would suggest he's mid 50s possibly a shade older.No lapel pins/badges
Very polished shoes (plus the way his feet are angled-at ease) might suggest ex Army?!!

Mail box is on the inside as indeed the gate is open.

[001uk]

The faces are in the top right window.Difficult to age the female at the left.Could be mid 20s.certainly there is a child with her of about 3 years?

[001uk]

RE The telephone.
Are there directories for Manhattan of the period (1918-20s)at all?
Although there is no number on the board Messrs STOYLE & LEE clearly had it in mind otherwise they wouldn't have made provision in their notice. A business would have needed one after all.

[Erato]

Are we certain that the Edward Stoyle in Manhattan in 1910 is somehow connected?  He supposedly immigrated in 1895 but I have found no record of this.  I have searched the 1900 US  census with no luck; also the 1905 NY census and the 1920 US census, ditto.  Also NY births, marriages and deaths - no luck.  Also city directories - zero.

Other than the fact that someone named Edward might be called Ted, and that he was a carpenter, what reason is there to think that Manhattan is the right place to be looking?

[Lisa in California]

Are you sure the postcard was mailed (in an envelope) to someone in England?

PS  Thank you for the photo enlargements.