james mclaren

[johnsmiff]

looking for james it say's in the 1891 census he was born in menstrie about 1872 and on his marriage cert. his father was john mclaren sailor and his mother was elizabeth nee brown but can't find them anywhere,

[CaroleW]

The 1891 just shows Clackmannanshire - the 1881 shows Menstry and he is living with relatives

Have you checked Scotlands People for a birth for him?

[johnsmiff]

yes there are 3 james mclaren's born around that time but none with john and elizabeth as parents

[CaroleW]

Do any of the 3 entries suggest an illegitimate birth?

[johnsmiff]

no they are all legal,in the 1881 census one staying with grandparents,one is staying with aunt and uncle and one with parents, 1891 census he is in lanark /shotts area aged 19 boarder coalminer.in 1892 he gets married in slammannan

[MonicaL]

Hi John

Can't easily see a marriage for parents John McLaren and Elizabeth Brown - have you been able to find one?

Possibility that James' birth may have been illegitimate and therefore his birth entry would be registered under his mother's maiden name. There are at least 4 births for a John Brown circa 1871-2, with mother showing as Elizabeth Brown, no father's name. His entry could be any one of them. There are no births showing on IGI for a James McLaren or Brown in Clackmannanshire on IGI unfortunately.

Have you checked his death cert to see if there is anything new regarding his parents (sometimes you get a different marriage name for mother).

Monica 

[johnsmiff]

hello again,yes tried sp but no marriage of  john to elizabeth if he was a sailor they could have been married anywhere in uk not found his death cert.yet. just like the smith side i,m running into brick walls and getting nowhere. thanks for all your help

[Caz1960]

I feel your pain John, I also have McLaren's in my motley crew, along with Lindsays   
Looked through what I have so far, but no John McLaren's married to Elizabeth of any name.
By the way, my lot also come  from Menstrie so if I should come across him, I'll let you know.

Caz

[patvp1]

Have a number of McLarens (John & James) Clackmannanshire area, all sailors of one kind or another, but cannot see any Elizabeth Brown or Elizabeth ?
Going on scottish naming patterns (if he did) the 1901 shows his daughters as
Euphemia, Janet, Christina and Isabella..no Elizabeth ??
Will have another look at my lot  see if I can come up with anything.
Regards Patvp