Joseph Rogers Winter and Jessy Houlson *COMPLETED*

[Eyesee]

There was another child born in England as well.

From http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start
Elizabeth Ada WINTER, born 31 Jan 1875 Gloucestershire, parents Joseph Rodgers WINTER and Jessy.

They married 4 Apr 1874 Bristol. Joseph was 25 and his father was William.

Wonder if this is him in 1851
HO107/2475/526/9
Cold Clow, Narberth North, Pembrokshire
William WINTER, head mar 35, Poultry dealer, born Somerset, Brompton Ralph
Sarah WINTER, wife mar 36, born Somerset, Winchcomb
Elizabeth WINTER, dau 10, Scholar, born Pembroke, Tenby
Sarah WINTER, dau 7, Scholar, born ditto
Eliza WINTER, dau 5, Scholar, born Pembroke, Narberth
Timothy WINTER, son 3, Scholar, born ditto
Joseph WINTER, son 1, born ditto
Caroline WINTER, dau 3mths, born ditto

Think it might be as Elizabeth was baptised as Elizabeth Rogers WINTER in 1842 on labs familysearch.

Ian C

[Wint]

Thanks Ian these are the right people. Joseph and Jessie's Grandmothers were sisters, nothing like keeping it in the family. They could have taken two young children with them, the others were all born in Nelson

Wint

[Carol Evangeline]

Hi Wint,
I am a distant cousin, I think. I am a granddaughter of Jessie Hadfield, nee Winter. I have family tree with the same dates for childrens births, but we always believed Jessie was born in Wales. Published family history states Joseph and Jessy Winter came from Abergavenny, Wales,  in 1886. They lived in Johnsonville, Wellington, before moving to Nelson in 1894. Perhaps they lived in Wales for a time before coming to New Zealand. Mrs Winter had a brother, Colin  Houlson, who was a photographer in Abergavenny. I have photos of some of them and family trees showing their decendants, and can give you a lot of other family stories if you would like.

[Thamesite2017]

Hi Carol
make a couple of more posts, then you can use the PM facility  for personal messages and exchange email addresses
Bye
Althea

[johnbarr]

Elizabeth Mae Winter, b 31 Jan 1875, parent Joesph R Winter, pupil at Johnsonville school, (near Wellington) Oct 1882 until 13 Dec 1889.

Jessie Winter, b 28 Jun 1879, parent Joseph Rogers Winter, attended same school 26 Jan 1885 until 20 Dec 1894.

William Winter, b 20 May 1881 also from 25 May 1886 til 20 Dec 1894.

John B

[Carol Evangeline]

Elizabeth Ada Winter (Bessie) was a teacher for the Hadfield, Cunliffe, and younger Winter children at Awaroa from 1894. She married John Conner in 1904. Jessie Winter married Frederick George Hadfield in 1909. William Isaacs Winter married Ivy Adele nee Hadfield after her first husband William Roberts died. Christiana Winter died at Awaroa in 1933. George Winter, who had gone to Australia as a missionary, died in 1926 after being bitten by a snake. Robert died in 1925 in Nelson after contracting influenza. The Hadfields considered the Winter family cultured and educated, noting artist materials and musical instruments in their possessions when they first arrived at Awaroa. However, they thought the boys looked too frail to be farmers. William (Will), who died in 1959, was described as poet, woodcarver, botanist, and Wainui Hill roadman.