Iron? Cornwall did it exist?

[reuters11]

I think I have MAY have found 1901 census information on my GGrandfather, John Hy Jenkins.

It was my belief that my grandfather, Robert George Jenkins was born in Wales 1885, specifically, Haverfordwest but I couldn't find any that seemed to fit. I know my Grandfather's sons were named after, his father and also after his brothers so I know there had to be Edward, Charles, Walter and Thomas. I also know there was an Ellen, his sister. The names all fit the census and what I vaguely remember from Mum.

The census lists his place of birth as Cornwall, Iron. Is that actually a place? I can't find anything on it if so. I'm wondering if it might actually be Truro? His father Richard is listed as being born in Cornwall; Roseland. so that would make sense if that was the case.

The 1891 census says that John Henry was born in St Athan Glamorgan.

The 1871 census where John Henry is living with his father, Richard, says he's born in Lincoln Hook. I remember there was mention of Hook so think that could be right.

It is a little bit hard to trace these and work out who was my Grandfather Robert's mother because I know he married several times because his wives died. I'm wondering if they couldn't be bothered so they just said "yes, we were all born in this county."  LOL

Ps: Please forgive any delay in me responding, i'm in Australia so may not be here when everyone else is.

[CaroleW]

I cannot find a 1901 entry for either a John Jenkins with that birthplace or a Richard Jenkins with a birthplace of Roseland Cornwall

Can you please post the full 1901 details or post the RG reference - Piece number - folio number- page number so we can look at the image

[ricky1]

I think this is the place taken from the census

[ricky1]

Rg13/ 5078
folio 125
page 30

[osprey]

as the occupation given for John Henry in 1901 is basket maker, how about this entry from 1871 which is a better match for place of birth than the Lincolnshire one?

13 C Roberts Ct, Penzance RG10/2339 folio 108 pg 9
Elizabeth Jenkin head mar 38 charwoman b. Cornwall, St Austell
John H son 17 basket maker b. Truro
Fras J P son 15 b. Devon, Beerhelston (?) (Beer Alston?)
Mary E dau 10 b. Devon, Bere Ferrers
Wm C W son 8 b. Truro
Richard T son 6 b. Penzance

[andycand]

Hi

My guess is that the Welsh enumerator was not familiar with Cornwall and transcribed the place as he/she interpreted the form completed by the householder. Whilst in the 1911 census we can see what the householder actually wrote, for earlier censuses we can only access the Enumerators books.

Andy

[osprey]

Elizabeth Jenkin is in Swansea in 1881 census with daughter Mary E and son Richard RG11/5356 folio 38 pg 50

The links of Swansea & Cornwall go back a fair way because of copper & tin. The Vivian & Grenfell families who were major movers & shakers in the Swansea area in various metals were from Cornwall, the Vivians being from Truro.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Vivian,_1st_Baron_Swansea

http://www.cornish-mining.org.uk/story/copper.htm

[krisesjoint]

Hi,

Yes looks like the family Osprey. Family names seem good matches as well.

The family in 1861

RG9/1457 Folio 72 Page 24
Coats
Beer Ferris
Devon

GENKINGS Walter Head 34 Mar b Redruth Basket Maker
GENKINGS Elizabeth Wife 30 Mar b Sentofshill (Have to laugh at that one)
GENKINGS John Henry Son 7 b Truro Scholar
GENKINGS Francis James Son 5 b Beer Ferris Scholar
GENKINGS Mary Ellin dau 6 months b Beer Ferris

Possibly

JENKIN John Henry Jun 1/4 1853 Truro 5c 197

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

1851

HO107/1910 Folio 224 Page 15
Union St
Truro St Mary

JENKIN Walter T Head 27 Mar b Redruth Basket Maker
JENKIN Elizabeth Wife 20 Mar b St Austell
JENKIN Mary E Dau 4 months b Gwennap

JENKIN Walter Thomas = PEARCE Elizabeth Dec 1/4 1849 Redruth 9 296

JENKIN Walter Thomas was baptised 22 Oct 1826 Redruth St Uny parents Charles and Mary

JENKIN John Henry was baptised 3 Jul 1853 Truro St John parents Walter and Elizabeth

Cheers Kris