Herbert John Alfred Lait look up1901

[rw007a6097]

Hello, Can anyone do a look up for Herbert John Alfred Lait on the 1901 census or 1891 census. for Canada
Not much to go on i am afraid he would have been  12 years old approx in 1901.
 His fathers name was Charles Herbert Lait, It's a long shot I know
                   many thanks   Ken

[carol8353]

These are all the Lait's on the 1901 census,from the site Automated Genealogy.
The Charles H one seems a bit too young to be yours?
He's lodging with what seems to be brother Ralph in a house in Montreal.
It's a good (free) website,and if you can work it out you can even view the image

Regards,

Carol



Surname Givens Age Province District Subdistrict Subdistrict
Number Page Line
Lait Adelaide 33 MB WINNIPEG (City/Cité) Ward/Quartier No. 2 b-1 5 20
Lait Annie 57 ON LANARK (South/Sud) Carleton Place (Town/Ville) d-5 8 29
Lait Annie 27 ON MUSKOKA & PARRY SOUND Parry Sound (Town/Ville) i(1)-1 14 34
Lait Charles H 28 QU MONTRÉAL (City/Cité)/175 Saint-Antoine (Ward/Quartier) a-10 6 43
Lait Edward 11 MB WINNIPEG (City/Cité) Ward/Quartier No. 2 b-1 5 22
Lait Elise M. 11 ON CORNWALL & STORMONT Cornwall (Township/Canton) b-4 12 28
Lait Ernetine 41 ON CORNWALL & STORMONT Cornwall (Township/Canton) b-4 12 26
Lait Fredrick A. 8 ON CORNWALL & STORMONT Cornwall (Township/Canton) b-4 12 29
Lait George 70 ON LANARK (South/Sud) Carleton Place (Town/Ville) d-5 8 28
Lait George H. 26 TT ASSINIBOIA (West/Ouest) Feldman Lake z 3 31
Lait Janet 51 ON ONTARIO (South/Sud) Whitby (Town/Ville) f-4 10 32
Lait John 52 TT UNORGANIZED TERRITORIES/TERRITOI Middle Dominion (Yukon) f-50 31 5
Lait John J. 32 TT ASSINIBOIA (West/Ouest) Medicine Hat (North/Nord) n(1) 5 48
Lait Leonard  MB WINNIPEG (City/Cité) Ward/Quartier No. 2 b-1 5 24
Lait Percy 3 MB WINNIPEG (City/Cité) Ward/Quartier No. 2 b-1 5 23
Lait Peter N. 50 ON CORNWALL & STORMONT Cornwall (Township/Canton) b-4 12 25
Lait Ralph H 27 QU MONTRÉAL (City/Cité)/175 Saint-Antoine (Ward/Quartier) a-10 6 44
Lait Thos 30 TT ASSINIBOIA (West/Ouest) Medicine Hat (North/Nord) n(1) 5 49
Lait William 66 ON MUSKOKA & PARRY SOUND Parry Sound (Town/Ville) i(1)-1 14 33
Lait William Chapman 17 MB WINNIPEG (City/Cité) Ward/Quartier No. 2 b-1 5 21
Lait William J 6 MB SELKIRK Macdonald f-1 4 29
Lait Wm Harry 45 MB WINNIPEG (City/Cité) Ward/Quartier No. 2 b-1 5 19

[rw007a6097]

  Carol. Hi many thanks  for that information, it does suggest to me he is English which is what I thought, as the Charles Herbert I am looking for would. have been olderI wonder if you can help on another  query for me  do have any info on a James Lang married to Thirza They lived in Kenora, I believe they used to call it Rat Portage. Thirza was born in1861 Derby England and James came from Scotland they had a daughter  called Elizabeth born  1893.
Thank you once again for helping me with the LAIT connection
                                        Sincere Regards    Ken

[carol8353]

Ken

Do you mean are they in Canada in 1901?

Here is the website I use,I am tracing ancestors in Montreal for a friend,but they went over to Canada from Scotland around 1909,so they are not on the 1901.
Hoping they release the 1911 later this year 

http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/cache/index.html

I live in England- I presume you're in Canada?

Regards

Carol

[rw007a6097]

Hello Carol.  The Lang's were certainly in Canada 1901 Thirza arrived between 1891 and 1893, Elizabeth was born there 1893. Regarding me , no I am not in Canada but in Bristol Uk, I thought you were in Canada.
Can you tell me where I can find out where Thirza sailed from or when she emigrated?
Once again manyh thanks fro your response      Ken

[carol8353]

I have never had any luck with ships lists,the ones I am looking for emigrated in the early 1900's and records do not seem to be online for that period.
The http://www.collectionscanada.ca/index-e.html website does have some ships lists- or just google search and check each one till you find a name.

Do you know when she last appeared on a census over here?
Did they marry here? She doesn't seem to be on the 1901 census list as Thirza Lang.

Good luck- sorry I can't be more help- maybe post another request with a different heading eg Ships lists and an approx date?

Carol

[samthompson]

Hello

here is Charles Herbert Lait from England - he lived in BC and served in WW1

military records
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc008/448927a.gif

death record
Vital Event Death Registration

   Name:     Charles Herbert Lait

   Event Date:     1936 4 20 (Yr/Mo/Day)
   Age:            76
   Gender:         male
   Event Place:    Vancouver
                                   
   Reg. Number:    1936-09-513067
   B.C. Archives Microfilm Number:  B13156
   GSU Microfilm Number: 1953020

his wife's death record
Vital Event Death Registration

   Name:     Annie Matilda Lait

   Event Date:     1934 6 28 (Yr/Mo/Day)
   Age:            72
   Gender:         female
   Event Place:    Vancouver
                                   
   Reg. Number:    1934-09-490894
   B.C. Archives Microfilm Number:  B13150
   GSU Microfilm Number: 1952856



Here is Herbert John Alfred Lait born 1888 from England living in BC, also served in WW1

military records
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc008/448928a.gif

Name: Herbert John Alfred LAIT 1
Sex: M
Birth: 25 SEP 1888 in Newington, England 1
Death: WFT Est. 1905-1978 in England 1

Father: Charles Herbert LAIT b: 10 AUG 1859 in England
Mother: Annie Matilda BRENTNALL b: 21 JUN 1862 in England

Marriage 1 Sadie HOWLEY b: WFT Est. 1884-1904
Married: WFT Est. 1905-1938 1

Marriage 2 Evelyn TAYLOR b: WFT Est. 1884-1904
Married: WFT Est. 1905-1938 1



here is another son of Charles Herbert Lait
Wilfred Francis James Lait
military records
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc008/448933a.gif
he died in France during the war
Name: Wilfrid Francis James LAIT 1
Sex: M
Birth: 30 SEP 1889 in Newington, England 1
Death: 17 AUG 1917 in France 1

Father: Charles Herbert LAIT b: 10 AUG 1859 in England
Mother: Annie Matilda BRENTNALL b: 21 JUN 1862 in England

Here is someone looking for the same family

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ID: I1205
Name: Charles Herbert LAIT 1
Sex: M
Birth: 10 AUG 1859 in England 1
Death: 20 APR 1936 in Burnaby, B C 1

Marriage 1 Annie Matilda BRENTNALL b: 21 JUN 1862 in England
Married: WFT Est. 1878-1907 in England 1
Children
 Charles Spurgeon Brentnall LAIT b: 9 JUL 1887 in Lambeth, England
 Herbert John Alfred LAIT b: 25 SEP 1888 in Newington, England
 Wilfrid Francis James LAIT b: 30 SEP 1889 in Newington, England
 Daisy Elizabeth Florence LAIT b: 25 JAN 1892 in Newington, England

 ID: I1204
Name: Charles Spurgeon Brentnall LAIT 1
Sex: M
Birth: 9 JUL 1887 in Lambeth, England 1
Death: 26 OCT 1966 in Calgary ALBERTA 1

Father: Charles Herbert LAIT b: 10 AUG 1859 in England
Mother: Annie Matilda BRENTNALL b: 21 JUN 1862 in England

Marriage 1 Elizabeth (Bessie) GIBSON b: WFT Est. 1878-1902
Married: WFT Est. 1903-1937 1
Children
 Charles Ernest LAIT b: 12 MAR 1918 in GRASSY LAKE, ALBERTA
 Douglas Gibson LAIT b: Private
 Harold Herbert LAIT b: Private
 Wilfrid John LAIT b: Private

Marriage 2 Isobel GORDON b: WFT Est. 1883-1903
Married: WFT Est. 1904-1937 1

Marriage 3 Florence Eva DINSMORE b: WFT Est. 1883-1903
Married: WFT Est. 1904-1937 1


Here is Charles Herbert Lait's daughter's marriage and death

Vital Event Marriage Registration

   Groom Name:     Howard Henson Swank
   Bride Name:     Daisy Elizabeth F Lait

   Event Date:     1922 9 14 (Yr/Mo/Day)
   Event Place:    Vancouver
                                       
   
   Reg. Number:    1922-09-248907
   B.C. Archives Microfilm Number:  B13743
   GSU Microfilm Number: 2074225

Vital Event Death Registration

   Name:     Daisy Elizabeth F Swank

   Event Date:     1980 7 25 (Yr/Mo/Day)
   Age:            88
   Gender:         female
   Event Place:    Surrey
                                   
   Reg. Number:    1980-09-011771
   B.C. Archives Microfilm Number:  B13605
   GSU Microfilm Number: 2051481


Name: Daisy Elizabeth Florence LAIT 1
Sex: F
Birth: 25 JAN 1892 in Newington, England 1
Death: 25 JUL 1980 in Surrey, British Columbia 1

Father: Charles Herbert LAIT b: 10 AUG 1859 in England
Mother: Annie Matilda BRENTNALL b: 21 JUN 1862 in England

Marriage 1 Howard Henson SWANK b: 2 MAR 1884 in Roanoke, Indiana, USA
Married: 14 SEP 1922 in British Columbia 1
Children
 Donald Henson SWANK b: Private
 Norman Brentnall SWANK b: Private
 Marion Winnifred SWANK b: Private
 Vernon Sidney SWANK b: 20 NOV 1931 in New Westminister, B C

Good Luck

Thelma

[samthompson]

Hello again

here is Thirze Lang and family in 1901

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
10 23   102 Lang James M   Head M Nov 2 1859 41
10 24   102 Lang Thirze F   Wife M Apr 16 1861 39
10 25   102 Lang Helen R F   Daughter S Sep 12 1883 17
10 26   102 Lang Janet F   Daughter S Jan 1 1886 15
10 27   102 Lang Christopher M   Son S Apr 12 1888 12
10 28   102 Lang Elizabeth F   Daughter S Aug 29 1893 7
10 29   102 Lang Amelia G F   Daughter S Feb 19 1895 6
10 30   102 Lang James M   Son S Mar 20 1898 3
Source Information: 1901 Census of Canada
Subdistrict: Rat Portage (Town/Ville), ALGOMA, ONTARIO
District Number: 44
Subdistrict Number: n(2)-3
Archives Microfilm: T-6458

go to this site and you can view the actual census form - she immigrated in 1890, her husband in 1884
her husband was born in Scotland and the first three children on the above census were also born in Scotland and are her stepchildren

http://data4.collectionscanada.ca/netacgi/nph-brs?s2=ON&s1=rat+portage&l=20&Sect1=IMAGE&Sect2=THESOFF&Sect5=FS31PEN&s10=1901&Sect6=HITOFF&d=GS31&p=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.collectionscanada.ca%2Farchivianet%2F02012202_e.html&r=0&f=S

look for this entry and select page 10, then move around to line 24

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 Province/Territory:  Ontario 
 District Name:  ALGOMA 
 District Number:  44 
 Sub-district Name:  Rat Portage (Town/Ville) 
 Sub-district Number:  n(2)-3 
 Schedule:  1 
 Reference: RG31 , Statistics Canada 
 Microfilm Reel Number:  T-6458 
 Finding Aid Number:  31-40 
 
 The following images are associated with this entry:
 Associated images: pg. 1 pg. 2 pg. 3 pg. 4 pg. 5 pg. 6 pg. 7 pg. 8 pg. 9 pg. 10 pg. 11 pg. 12 pg. 13 pg. 14 pg. 15 pg. 16 pg. 17 pg. 18 pg. 19 pg. 20 pg. 21 pg. 22 pg. 23 pg. 24 pg. 25 pg. 26

I can't seem to find more on this family at the moment but will let you know if I do. I have Langs from Ontario in my family at some point.

Good Luck

Thelma

[rw007a6097]

Thelma My sincere thanks to you, re Thirza lang she had a daughter called  Elizabeth who married a Hamill(i think his name was Harrold)They had a son named James and i am positive Elizabeth lived at 214 Maddeson street North Kenora and in 1953 James is on a photo with his wife Winona and daughter Majory aged 12 months . If I can contact Majory then  I believe she can give me answers to a number of enigmas. She would be about 53 years of age now and probably married .
If you can give me any angle on her I would be most gratefull, incidently there is still a Harrold  Lang  living at 214 Madison Street North . I have written to him twice and sent everything I have on the family tree including photos but no response sadly. 
But once again a big thank you for all the information   Ken