Denis Allen

[anthonyd]

I am looking for any family connections with a Denis Allen born 1841 who moved from County Clare to Liverpool with his two Daughters Catherine born 1861 and Mary born 1867 , they show on the Liverpool Census of 1871 , but no Mothers details

Mary is my Great Grand Mother who Married a John Donoghue in 1885 , he was also Irish , but unfortunately all I know for definite his Fathers name was Patrick , occupation blacksmith .

Can anyone help please?

Regards

Tony Donoghue

[obbie]

hi
theres a
mary allen born to denis allen and mary hacket 4 oct 1869 mtshannon galway
isaac allen born to denis allen and mary hackett 31 mar 1866 mtshannon galway
mountshannon is in co clare but close to galway county border

on the 1871 english census i see it says denis is married hes not put in hes a widow ,
wonder what happend to his wife ?
have you searched other censuses around area there living to see if wife and possible other kids there ?
have you found family on 1881 census ?

if you write-email to mountshannon church and ask them to look for mary allens baptism and denis and mary hacket,s marriage youll get some info as to fathers names addresses and witnesses

2 possibles
john donoghue 7 april 1868  coom kerry to patrick donoghue and margaret lynch
john donoghue 6 may 1867 killarney kerry to  patrick donoghue and bridget donoghue
what age (date of birth) have you for john ?

good luck

[obbie]

the kerry births can be seen here
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/index.html

there are no online records for co clare and i dont think there are plans to be as clare has a genealogy centre in corofin an expensive option

[obbie]

if you havnt had a look at the clarelibrary website the genealogy section you should have a look .

theres mention of a denis allen in mountshannon church a stained glass window photo included .

http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/don_tran/graves/mountshannon_rc_church_and_graveyard.htm

[anthonyd]

Thanks for the recent replies , I was aware of a stained glass window relating to a denis allen in mountshannon church .

I had no knowledge of Mary Hackett or Isacc Allen , I will write to the church as suggested , also currently only limited records of the family on the 1881 census .

The John Donoghue in question was born approx 1

[heywood]

Hello,
is this your family in 1881 RG11; Piece: 3641; Folio: 91; Page: 42

54 Hughson Street Toxteth
Dennis Allen 40yrs  Locs. Labourer b ireland
Margaret Allen wife 50yrs  b Ireland
Catherine Allen daur 19yrs b Ireland

heywood

[anthonyd]

Thanks for the recent replies , I was aware of a stained glass window relating to a denis allen in mountshannon church .

I had no knowledge of Mary Hackett or Isacc Allen , I will write to the church as suggested , also currently only  limited records of the family on the 1881 census .

The John Donoghue in question was born approx 1856 , what I now find , it may be a coincidence is that his eldest son Denis my grand-dad married Elizabeth Hackett in 1912 .

[heywood]

I can't see the family in 1891 but  they are there in 1901- Dennis and Margaret plus other family members

[anthonyd]

heywood

Thanks for the replies , it is the correct family details it seems Denis re-married ,but the
mystery continues ,I will try to discover what happened to his first wife Mary and son Isaac .

Regards

Tony