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Re: Trenet McDermott nee Garner, c1863-c1940
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 22 September 10 00:41 BST (UK) »
Marriage
Sept qtr 1917
Annie Mcdermott
Edward j manning
W ham
4a 437

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Trenet McDermott nee Garner, c1863-c1940
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 22 September 10 00:46 BST (UK) »
birth reg
Catherine McDermott
Dec qtr 1893
W Ham
4a 336

(possible) death reg
Catherine mcDermott
Sept qtr 1963
age 69
Bromley Kent
5b 138

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Trenet McDermott nee Garner, c1863-c1940
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 22 September 10 00:55 BST (UK) »
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Trenet McDermott nee Garner, c1863-c1940
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 22 September 10 01:14 BST (UK) »
birth reg
Alice Lucy mcdermott
Mar qtr 1899
W ham
4a 448

Marriage
Alice L Mcdermott
Ernest G Bailey
Jun qtr 1921
W ham
4a 380

so was Alice Lucy bailey (single woman) mentioned in probate maybe Tennet's widowed daughter or maybe a granddaughter??


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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Trenet McDermott nee Garner, c1863-c1940
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 22 September 10 01:29 BST (UK) »
marriage
jan 6 1879 st barnabus Homerton Middlesex
Edward Harry mcdermott age 20 Bachelor Shoemaker of 76 Digby Rd father John David Mcdermott occ Plumber?
kennette Emily Alice Garner age 17 spinster of 90 Digby Rd father Henry george Garner occ Printer
both signed

Witesses
Thomas batch
Emily Batch
Rowella Aldina Emma garner
all signed
 marriage solemnised by A. E. Wicks

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Trenet McDermott nee Garner, c1863-c1940
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 22 September 10 08:07 BST (UK) »
Suz, you're a star! That is far more than I ever hoped for or expected.

Yes, we have the census details from 1881 thru 1911, but only of the McDermotts, not the married ones.

I will have to go back to the census for Freeborn, Manning and Bailey.
I had already suspected that Alice Bailey was Alice McDermott, as she was described as single woman, (widow?) rather than spinster.

Ronella (not Rowella) Aldina Emma Garner (nee Sievers) was Trenett's mother, and my own G-G-grandmother.

By the way, Trenet (a Breton name) had been used for a long time in the family. One Trenet Garner was married in 1834. Ronella was a contraction of Petronella, her grandmother's name, and is sill in use in our family. Aldina also goes back a few generations.
Jennings (Somerset), Sievers (London and Netherlands), Richier (Netherlands & Germany), Chappuzeau(Germany),Garner (London) , Smith (Guernsey), Brand (London and Germany),  Burney (Liverpool & London), Oakley (Wales), Creek (Wales & Devon)

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Re: Trenet McDermott nee Garner, c1863-c1940
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 22 September 10 11:02 BST (UK) »
What lovely names.

I read Ronella as Rowella from her signature -which did have marks on it

It is difficult to trace John and Charles as there are several possibilities

There are Johns with middle names William/Henry/Lawrence -all births reg abt same time in Essex

there is also a Charles Owen who is a possibility

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Trenet McDermott nee Garner, c1863-c1940
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 22 September 10 11:17 BST (UK) »
Little bit more info on Edward

Baptism no2621
St Thomas Stepney Middlesex
Edward John Albert Mcdermott
Sept 27 1885
born 10 Sept 1885
parents Edward & Trenette Emily Alice Mcdermott
father's occupation Leather Cutter
address 40 Devonport St

Death reg
Edward John mcdermott
born 10 Sept 1885
death reg Jun qtr 1977
Waltham Forest
15 0895

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Trenet McDermott nee Garner, c1863-c1940
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 22 September 10 16:47 BST (UK) »
Few of the Ronellas seem to have liked the name themselves.

Ronella Ethel was called Ethel
Her daughter Ronella was always called Pops
Ronella Bramwell was Nella
My cousin Ronella is Ronnie.
Jennings (Somerset), Sievers (London and Netherlands), Richier (Netherlands & Germany), Chappuzeau(Germany),Garner (London) , Smith (Guernsey), Brand (London and Germany),  Burney (Liverpool & London), Oakley (Wales), Creek (Wales & Devon)
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