Look up BELLIS 1871

[alramsey]

Hi,
Can anyone locate the 1871 census household details of brothers John BELLIS b abt1864, Peter BELLIS b abt 1866 and Thomas BELLIS b abt 1869 all Buckley Flintshire. Mother Elizabeth b abt 1839 Firthing Flintshire.
Elizabeth went on to marry William Anglesey in 1873 so Head of the family may have died before 1871.

Thanks

Alan

[Isobelruss]

RG10 3735/61/3

Elizabeth  Bellis 31 widow pauper b Tryddyn Flint
Edward 9 son b Mold Flint
Mary 7 dau b Hawarden
John 5 son b ditto
Peter 3 son b ditto
Thomas 5 mths son b ditto

Buckley Mountain Ewloe Wood,Hawarden

3 houses up the page
Peter Bellis 67 collier b Hawarden
Mary 61 wife b ditto
Martha 20 dau dressmaker b ditto

[crisane]

RG10/3735/61/3
Buckley Mountain Cheshire
Elizabeth Bellis 31 pauper
Edward 9 born Mold
May 7
John 5
peter 3
Thomas 5 months
Last four born Howarden
On the same page as Elizabeth is  John Bellis 68 and wife Mary 62 Also Peter 67 wife Mary 61 and dau Martha 20

[alramsey]

Many Thanks, Isobellrus and crisane.

Can you locate the same two households in the 1861.

Thanks

Alan 

[down-under]

Hello

1861 RG9/2634 folio 49 page 2 Ewloe Wood Flintshire

Buckley Mountain

John Bellis age 58 Coal Miner Agent  all born Hawarden Flintshire
Mary wife age 53
Richard son age 20 brickwork lab
William son age 18 brickwork lab
Mary dau age 11
Ann dau age 9
Charles son age 7
//
Peter Bellis age 50 coal miner
Mary wife age 49
John son age 20 brickwork lab
Esther dau age 17 dressmaker
Martha dau age 11

Next page
John Bellis age 88 retired Coalminer
Hannah wife age 84 born Mold


Pam

[alramsey]

Many thanks Pam.

Very Grateful,

Alan

[alramsey]

Sadly, in spite of all the great help , I have not cracked my problem.

Can anyone solve which member of this BELLIS family married the Elizabeth (pauper) who appears as head in the 1871 household. 1851 household may help but the husbands death must have occured before 1871 and the marriage possibly just after 1861. There are no marriages on FreeBMD that are blatantly obvious.

UPDATE : There is a marriage shown 1859 in the Holywell registration district which could be a John Bellis marrying Elizabeth Bellis. Kissing cousins perhaps. The 1851 households may hold a clue.

Regards

Alan

[Shep]

Seeing as son Edward is born in Mold @ 1862 perhaps she married later (who is Edwards father?)
John Bellis marr Eliz Lloyd in St Marys, Treuddyn, Nr Mold bet Apr - Jun 1865 and there is a John Bellis death in Mold in 1869 - it's a possibility...

[alramsey]

Hi Shep, Thanks for your interest.
The John Bellis death in 1869 FreeBMD has a death age of 64 which is a tad old ...Elizabeth would be abt 30 at the time of his death. Not impossible though.

Regards

Alan