CATER - Southwark

[Lisajj]

Can anyone find the following family on any other census?  This is 1881, but I can't find anyone on 1891, 1901 or 1871 or 1861.  I really want to work out when William & Elizabeth may have got married (I don't think they did) but can't find anyone pre 1881.  Any help would be fandabbydozzy!!!

1 Myers Place, St Georges, Southwark
William Cater Head age 36 born in City of London
Elizabeth Cater wife age 36 born in St James, London
Fanny Cater daug age ?? born Southwark
Mary Cater daug age 14? born Southwark
Elizabeth Cater daug age 12 born Southwark
Eliza Cater daug age 8 born Southwark
William Cater son age 3 born Southwark
Anne Cater daug age 11 months born Southwark

[annaS]

Courtesy Free BMD.

William Cater married either Elizabeth Thomas or Elizabeth Trew in the March 1864 quarter in the Shoredith district. Ref. 1c 279.

I can't find them on the 1871 census at this time either.  Anna

[annaS]

 They were married 29th February 1864 at St. James Church, Shoreditch.

William Cater was of Full age and a 'waiter' and his father was William Cater a 'silk weaver'.  Elizabeth THOMAS father was John Thomas a 'cab proprietor'.  They were both living at 4, New North Street.  (I assume Shoreditch.)

Anna

[annaS]

I can send a copy of the marriage if you like.  Anna

[Morganllan]

There is a William Cate of the right age living with his mother Eliza Cate at St Saviour Southwark in 1871

[Morganllan]

check freebmd to look for births.
I found Annie Cater born 1880 (April-June Quarter) which would match 11 months at census
St Saviour volume 1d page 18

[Lisajj]

Thanks for your replies.  There's another "twist" in the tale.  We have one of the birth certificates for the children - Eliza, born 1874.  It says that the mother was Elizabeth Cater LATE James FORMERLY GOODING.
Can't find a marriage between Elizabeth James and William Cater.  Have found a marriage between Elizabeth Gooding and Charles James - in the Norwich area.  Have been trying to find baptisms of the children listed on the 1881, but can't find a thing.  Any list of non-conformist baptisms anywhere?
Lisa

[annaS]

I found the marriage that you found. There is also a couple of deaths in Norfolk for Charles James.  Unfortunately this is  not an unusual name, so may or may not be connected.  Anna

[annaS]

This marriage in Norfolk:  Elizabeth Gooding would only have been 13!  I know that the marriage age was lower then, but even so 13 is very young.  So I have my doubts.  She was born in London, and perhaps was working for a family in Norfolk; but somehow I don't think that this is her.  Anna