Help finding information on Edward Cook, Islington

[Eyesee]

Not sure if these are all yours.

Eliza COOK married George BINGE, 7 Oct 1900, St Thomas Finsbury Park Islington, father Edward COOK Drover
Sarah - can't find her
William Edward COOK married Louisa NASH, 1 Jun 1904, Battle Bridge All Saints Islington, father Edward COOK Drover
Rose COOK married Albert STEPNEY, St Philip Clerkenwell, 3 Jun 1906, father Edward COOK Drover
John Thomas COOK married Ellen ELLAN, 25 Dec 1912, Holloway St James Islington, father Edward COOK Drover
Mary Elizabeth COOK married Bertie HUDSON, 25 Dec 1913, St Barnabas, Hornsey Road, father Edward COOK Drover
Mary Elizabeth HUDSON (widow) 28, married George Frederick William WELLS, 23 Nov 1919, Barnsbury St Andrew Islington, father Edward COOK Drover
George Henry COOK married Emma Laura COCKERILL, 21 Sep 1914, Battle Bridge All Saints Islington, father Edward COOK Salesman
Charles Alfred COOK married Ethel Louisa FIELD, Barnsbury St David Islington, 31 Aug 1919 father Edward COOK Cattle Drover
Elizabeth Celia COOK married William Richard HYDE, 22 Dec 1918, St John's Upper Holloway Islington, father Edward COOK Salesman

Ian C

[Eyesee]

1881 - RG11/268/76/22
43 Queensland Road, Islington
Edward COOK, head mar 25, Drover, born Middx, Drury Lane
Mary COOK, wife mar 22, born Middx, Hoxton
Elizabeth COOK, dau 4, Scholar, born Middx, Holloway
Sarah COOK, dau 16, born ditto - Probably should read 16mo as mentioned earlier

Edward not born until Sep 1881 so would not appear here obviously. Same address as baptisms of Edward and Rosa.

Ian C

[jennifer c]

Checking freeBDM for that sort of time frame the only Edward Cook to marry in Islington was in 1877 a possible spouse Mary Ann Garbett. There is one reg. Shoreditch 1860 which could tie in with the census ages?

You would have to chance the marriage cert to prove.

Jennifer

[unclepyro]

Hi Heather

The John Turner at 25 Marlbro Tavern in 1871 is a GGGUncle of mine. I can`t figure out the nephew connection either. Been trying on and off for a few years an amassed loads of info on the Rassell name - some at Moscow road and 52 Lisson Grove etc.
Kind regards.

Richard

[HeatherLynne]

Hi Richard

That's fascinating, why did you amass info on the Rassell name?     I read it as Russell on the 1871 census where our ancestors are listed in the Coffee House.  Had you found other documentation with both of their names perhaps?

I see there's a Samuel and Sarah Russell at 52 Lisson Grove in 1871 - is this who you're referring to in your post?  Do you have either the name Flight or Withers in your family tree as these are linked to the Thomas Rassell who I think may be the man in the coffee house.

So many questions!  Hope to hear more from you soon
Heather

p.s.  Hope you don't mind this little thread diversion Hoolianama - once Richard has replied a couple more times I'll pm him and take our offshoot of this thread elsewhere.   

[unclepyro]

Hi Heather

When I saw the 1871 Census with Thomas Rassell listing my relative as Nephew I started to research the Rassel Line as far back as I coul.It was possible that he was a nephew 2 or 3 generations apart. I still can`t find the link but I have loads of data on your research. You probably have what I`ve got but following is a brief summary. If there are any specific holes in you research I`ll see what I can dig up.

Thomas Flight Rassell(w) B: 1771 Victualler
 Elizabeth Lipscombe(s) B:1779  M: 17/3/1803 Portsea  (2nd Wife) (8 Children)

1823 DIR:Thomas Rassell, Corn Dealer, 52 Lisson Grove
1826 DIR: Thomas Rassell, Corn Dealer, 52 Lisson Grove
1841 Census: Area  Missing but probably Paddington
1844 Thomas Rassell (Publican) Died aged 78. 17/2/1844 at 4 Moscow Rd, Paddington
1846 Sarah Rassell (3rd Wife) ?? Died aged 65. 5/4/1846 at 11 Gloucester Grove West, Brompton.


(1)   Mary Flight Rassell C: 1804  Portsea.  D: ?

(2)   Thomas Flight Rassell C: 27/4/1806 Portsea (b)  Settled in Islington.  Married St George Hanover Square. March 1831 To:
            Maria Carter  B: 1795 Birmingham or Worcester but settled in St George Hanover Square (s)

            1833 Thirza E Rassell Born, Islington.( Married Joseph Alexander Gough, Nov 1848 Had 9
                 Children in England. Emigrated to New Zealand in 1874. She died 15/10/1878, He died
                 In 1877)                                  
            1834 Sophia Rassell Born Islington. ( Maried James Orford c 1857. Had 2 children, Maria &
                  Sophia. She died in 1865, James Orford re-married)
1841 Census: 23 Grosvenor Row:Thomas Rassell (36), Maria Rassell (46), Sophia Rassell (
1851 Directory: 26 Penton Street. Thirza Gough, Milliner
1851 Census: 26 Penton Street. Thomas Rassell(44), Maria Rassell (57), Sophia Rassell (17)
            1861 Census: 45  Packington Street. Thomas Rassell(54), Maria Rassell (69)
1863 Maria Rassell (wife of Thomas Rassell) Died 3/2/1863 at 149 Packington St.

1871 Census: 25 Marlborough Tavern, Holloway.Thomas Rassell (65) Coffee House Keeper,
        John Turner (25) (His Nephew) Manager to Thomas Rassell (This is the connection that I
        can`t  work out.
    .
1873 Thoma:s Rassell Died 24/6/1873 at Islington Infirmary.




      (3) Thirza Flight Rassell C: 2/4/1808 Portsea. Settled in Loose, Kent. Married  in Loose 20/9/1843
To:
James Morris Frost B: 1807 (b), servant in St Pancras.

1841 Census: 9 Lower Berkeley St, Thirza Rassell (33) Frances  Rassell (21)
1843 Married, James Frost
1846 Walter James Frost Born, St James
1851 Henry Morris  Frost Born, Islington
1851 Census: 3 Theberton Street, Islington
1861 Census: 10 St Peters Terrace, Finsbury
1868 James Morris Frost Died, Dec 1868 Whitechapel
1871 Census: 119 Queens Road Hackney, Thirza Frost (68)
1881 Census: 39 Godson Road, Deptford
1885 Thirza Frost Died, Sept 1885 West Ham aged 77

(4)  Charles Milne Rassell C: 3/10/1809 Portsea, Settled ? Married ?  
To:
Hepzibah ?, from Ipswich in Suffolk.

1841 Census:  Cant find
1843 Document: Charles Rassell witness to marriage of George Rassell & Charlotte
1851 Census: 22 Green St, Portsea. Charles Rassell (41) Shopkeeper. Hepzibah (45)
1858 Hepzibah Died, Dec 1858 Portsea.
1861 Census: 3 King Street, Portsea. Charles Rassell (51) Comissioning Agent.

(5)   Elizabeth Lipscombe Rassell C: 6/12/1811 Portsea D: ?










(6)   Mary Ann Rassell (s) C: 25/5/1814 Portsea, Living  in 12 White Conduit Terrace,Islington.
             Married 25/6/1839 in  Islington            
To:
George Park (b) B: 1816,  Tailor in Westminster.

1841 Census: 41 Bury Street, Westminster. George Park (20) Mary Park (25)
1846 George Robert Park Born,
1848 Directory: 41 Bury Street, Westminster
1851 Census: 41 Bury Street, Westminster. George Park (35), Mary Ann Park (37) George  Robert Park (5)
             1851 – 1861 George Park Dies
1861 Census:Brunswick Hotel, Poplar. Mary Ann Park (42) George Robert Park (14)
1871 Census: 1 Marlborough Tavern, Holloway. George Robert Park (24) Oilman.


(7)   George Augustus Rassell C: 19/12/1816 Portsea, Living at 9 Theobalds Road, Married  4/8/1845 in Bloomsbury
To:
        Charlotte Ellen Buttery B: 1825 in Wellington, Shropshire, Living at 7 Orange St,
 
        1841 Census: Plumbers Row, Hoxton George Rassell (25) Baker
        1845 Married
        1847 Julia Rassell Born, Chelsea
        1848 Charlotte Ellen Rassell Born, Chelsea
        1851 Rachel Hepzibah Rassell Born, Chelsea
1851 Census: 40 Hunter Street, Southwark
1853 George Augustus B Rassell Born, Pimlico
1855 Thomas Rassell Born, Chelsea
1857 Frederick C Rassell Born, Chelsea
1860 Frances Elizabeth Rassell Born, Chelsea
1861 Census: 9 Ellis Street, Chelsea
1863 Lilian Rassell born, Chelsea
1866 Thirza F Rassell Born, Chelsea
1870 George Augustus Rassell Died, Jun 1870, Chelsea
1871 Census: 22 Church Street, Chelsea
1881 Census: 37 Gertrude Street, Chelsea
1883 Charlotte Ellen Rassell Died, June 1883 Chelsea.

[HeatherLynne]

Oh my goodness Richard!  That's an awful lot of information, thank you for taking the trouble to type it all out! 

I'm at work at the moment so can't compare with my records but a large number of the names and addresses are familiar.  There do appear to be a few that I don't recognise at the moment so will look forward to being able to check those out later.

Maybe John Turner is a nephew on Maria Carter's side?  I haven't done any research on her family at all as she's not in my direct line and I've enough to do pinning the direct ones down at the moment    I'm descended from (7) George Augustus Rassell and his son Geo Aug Buttery Rassell.

Thanks again, Heather

[HeatherLynne]

Hoolianama please excuse me for hijacking your thread again but I have many questions I'd like to ask unclepyro and as he has only posted twice so far I can't send him a private message.

Unclepyro, please post again on this thread and then I'll be able to send you private messages to avoid having to take over Hoolianama's thread.  I've now had a chance to compare your large post last Thursday against my records and have lots of questions to ask you.

Thanks both, kind regards  Heather

[HeatherLynne]

Was just thinking about this thread and wondering if Unclepyro had found any more about the possible connection between our families?

Hope to hear some news soon
Heather