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Tragedy at Bontherambo/Wangaratta Cemetery request
« on: Wednesday 29 September 10 10:36 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Hoping someone near Wangaratta Cemetery can help me out by taking some photos of family graves.

They are:

Joseph Dobson and wife no. 2  Mary - Methodist 116S buried 12 Sept 1898 and 1 Nov 1898.

Sarah Ann Dobson (wife no. 1) - C of E row 1 buried 16 Apr 1867.

George Dobson (son of Joseph)  - Methodist 141N buried 29 Aug 1894.

George's children: Jane, George and Frederick - Methodist 116C buried 29 Aug 1894.

Plot information from Wangaratta Council.

The tragedy is that George snr killed 3 of his 5 children at Bontherambo and also another adult Peter Dinsdale while of 'unsound mind'. I won't go into details as it may upset some readers, but it was very violent.

I have checked the Argus and found reports in 2 separate editions, does anyone know how to find the actual inquest records?

Also, George's occupation was given as 'selector'. Can anyone explain what that means please?

If anyone can take these photos, please PM me and I'll supply an email address.

Appreciate any help with any of the above.

Regards,

Tracey.

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Re: Tragedy at Bomberambo/Wangaratta Cemetery request
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 September 10 13:39 BST (UK) »
The inquest files can only be viewed in person at PROV.

Information about accessing them is available here:

http://www.access.prov.vic.gov.au/public/PROVguides/PROVguide008/PROVguide008.jsp

Inquest for DOBSON & DINSDALE are registered in the index as follows:

DOBSON Catherine - 1894 #1065

DOBSON Frederick J - 1894 #1065

DOBSON George - 1894 #1065

DOBSON George J - 1894 #1065

DINSDALE Peter - 1894 #1065



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Re: Tragedy at Bomberambo/Wangaratta Cemetery request
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 September 10 23:22 BST (UK) »
Thank you Merlin.

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Re: Tragedy at Bontherambo/Wangaratta Cemetery request
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 September 10 01:35 BST (UK) »
Selector
reference - Land Selection in Victoria after the 1869 act.

3 stages to the land selection process.

1. Application for licence
The 'selector' having decided on the piece of vacant Crown land was required to dig a
trench, no less than 2 feet long, 6 inches wide and 4 inches deep in the direction of the
continuous sides of his selection. He was required to place 'an easily seen' post/s or
cairns of stones, showing a notice at the corners of the allottment. Once he had done
this, he could make a formal application for license and to have the land surveyed.
The survey was then made and the application considered by the Local Land Board.
If approved the selector was allowed 3 years to cultivate 10% of the land, the land also
had to be enclosed by means of a 'fence'. He also had to prove his residence on the land
for 4 and 1/2 years. During this time he had to pay rent to the Crown at 2/- per acre per
year.

2.Application for lease
If the 'fella' had successfully cultivated 10% of his selection, and he had enclosed in and
lived on for the required period. He was permitted to apply for a lease for a 7 year
period.
This establishing a 'stronger hold to the land selected' he continued to pay 2/- per acre
per year to the Crown.
If he had paid his full rent over the 10 year period (3 years license & 7 years lease) he
will have paid a total of 20/-  (1 pound) per acre to the Crown which was the purchase price
of the land.

3.Application for grant.
If the selector successfully gained his lease, he could then apply for a Crown Grant at
any time by paying the balance of the purchase price of  the land (1 pound per acre).
Most 'fellas' however, chose to pay off their loans over a 10 year period, some even
borrowed from banks to pay off their property. (Then they had to earn enough to pay off
the bank loan)
(things haven't changed). :)

Tracey - I would read it as - in the process of 'selecting' the land; once he had paid the Crown for the whole of the land. I would then see him as a land owner.


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Re: Tragedy at Bontherambo/Wangaratta Cemetery request
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 30 September 10 01:57 BST (UK) »
Interesting information, thanks Logan. So does that mean if his occupation at death was 'selector' he was only part way thru this process? Were they called something else after they gained their lease?
Tracey.

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Re: Tragedy at Bontherambo/Wangaratta Cemetery request
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 30 September 10 07:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Tracey,
I live near Wangaratta. I might not get down for a week or so though. Might have to convince the other half our Sunday drive is to Wang Cemetery this weekend  ;)
Regards
Alison
PS There are still Dobsons and Dinsdales in Wangaratta. I don't know if they are descendants of the people you are looking for.
Blundell- Sussex - Newcastle
Kiefel- Prussia- South Australia
Fiegert-Prussia- South Australia
Retford/Deptford-Hampshire- NSW
Keetley-Hathern Leicestershire-New Zealand
Other names: Collis, Williams,Courage, Andrew, Ransom, Gore.

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Re: Tragedy at Bontherambo/Wangaratta Cemetery request
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 30 September 10 07:47 BST (UK) »
Hi
As a tragic footnote to a tragic story, we see in this newspaper item  that the wife of PETER DINSDALE of Springhurst died from an infection in a small cut in 1904.

She left eight children.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/10332648?searchTerm="peter dinsdale"&searchLimits=

REFLECTIVE moment ;)  Perhaps this PETER is son of the PETER of the murder.

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Re: Tragedy at Bontherambo/Wangaratta Cemetery request
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 September 10 08:23 BST (UK) »
The Peter who was murdered was
Peter DINSDALE d 1894 aged 66 Springhurst-  John DINSDALE and  Mary HEYWOOD  # 11202
The wife of Peter who died from a wound:
Louisa DINSDALE  d 1904 aged 40 Wangaratta -  William HUGHES and Clarinda DUKESON # 10826

Peter DINSDALE { b Ballarat} m Louisa HUGHES { b Wangaratta}   1884 # 4001
Peter DINSDALE b 1864  BUNI - Peter DINSDALE and  Hester ROBINSON # 13711

Esther DINSDALE d 1896 aged 65 Rutherglen - unknown father  Esther ROBINSON # 7649

Peter and Louisa { HUGHES } DINSDALE's first child was born at Ballarat  in 1885 and their last born in Wangaratta in 1903 { that child also died in 1904}

Peter DINSDALE d 1932 aged 68 Wangaratta - Peter DINSDALE and  Hester RONINSON # 12363

The poor Dinsdales what a sad time they had for a few years !

Regards
Alison
Blundell- Sussex - Newcastle
Kiefel- Prussia- South Australia
Fiegert-Prussia- South Australia
Retford/Deptford-Hampshire- NSW
Keetley-Hathern Leicestershire-New Zealand
Other names: Collis, Williams,Courage, Andrew, Ransom, Gore.

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Re: Tragedy at Bontherambo/Wangaratta Cemetery request
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 30 September 10 09:19 BST (UK) »
Hi
There is a Dinsdale tree online.

http://www.easystreetretreat.com.au/australianroyalty/individual.php?pid=I44374&ged=purnellmccord.ged

Its main source seems to be that well known subscription site :D

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