George FROST also known as James

[t mo]

gayle just click on that squiggly thing next to the avatar and you can send a personal message
trevor

[Gayle Eunson]

Thank you, I am not too good on the lists. Would prefer personal contact.
Gayle

[t mo]

no that,s fine that,s what it,s there for plus not everyone wants personal info out there for the world and his wife to see   

trevor

[coraki]

Hi All

Im a  great great grandson of George Frost & Mary Donnelly
 they married about 1842 at Kincumber, although no record found for the marriage
prior to Mary's marriage to George she had Kathrine FROST   with James Frost
no record found of that marriage or a death for James.
just recently i found  on the web parents for George as  James Frost and Ann Underwood
unfortunately I can not  relocate that info . 
 Mary Donnelly  parents shows as father unknown and mother Katherine Lake, Katherine Lake turns out to be incorrect  her parent being   James Donnelly & Ellen Dunn   according to the deaths of Mary's two brothers

[Dundee]

........ they married about 1842 at Kincumber

This is highly unlikely.  George was still a convict and would have had to apply to marry, and he didn't get a conditional pardon until 1848.  He applied to marry Elizabeth/Eliza DOYLE and they married in 1843 in Gosford.

Debra 

[coraki]

 George was still a convict and would have had to apply to marry, and he didn't get a conditional pardon until 1848.  He applied to marry Elizabeth/Eliza DOYLE 

This is not the Same George FROST
My George  Frost and Mary Donnelly  had twelve children  first born Susanna Frost 10 Aug 1843  another daughter my great grandmother Charlotte frost born 1847  George died  02 Dec 1867  Noraville,  he was in Australia 33 years according two his death  certificate  that would be abt 1834

there has been some confusion  between George Frost and Elizabeth Doyle.

My George Frost  according to conviction born George Frost  age 20 Single Native Place Farnham Essex Trade Farm labourer
Crime House Robbery Charged at Essex Quarter Session 2/07/1833
 on his twin son's birth certificate  states Georges birth plaace as Farnham Essex

[lizdb]

Baptisms in Farnham Essex for Frosts, around that time:

20Jan 1805 Mineward son of James and Ann
15 Feb 1807 Benjamin, Susanna and Elizabeth son and dtrs of James and Sarah
21 MAy 1809 Joseph and Elizabeth, son and dtr of James and Sarah
6 Nov 1811 George son of James and Sarah
12 Nov 1813 Charlotte dtr of James and Sarah
24 Feb 1816 James son of Thomas and Mary
10 Aug 1817 Hetty dtr of James and Sarah aged 1 yr and 2 weeks
17 MArch 1818 William son of Thomas and MAry
8 March 1819 William son of William and Sarah
9 July 1820 Sarah dtr of Thomas and Mary
23 Sep1821 Joseph son of William and Sarah
15 Dec 1822 Emma dtr of Thomas and Mary
5 Oct 1823 James son of William and Sarah
17 July 1825 Mary Ann dtr of Thomas and MAry
18 March 1827 Harriet illegitimate dtr of Sarah (widow)
6 June 1827 Eliza dtr of Thomas and MAry
4 March 1829 Ann dtr of thomas and MAry
9 Aug 1827 Sarah illegitimate dtr of Sarah (widow)
5 Aug 1830 Betsy dtr of Thomas and Mary
25 Oct 1830  Ann dtr of Minet and Mary
8 Sept 1835 John son of Thomas and MAry
24 feb 1833 Sarah dtr of Minet and Mary
5 MArch 1835 Mary Ann dtr of Minet and MAry
19 April 1835 Ann illegitimate dtr of Sarah (widow)
19 MArch 1837 Lucy dtr of Mynott and MAry
10 Sept 1837 John son of James and MAry

period looked through 1805- 1839

Hopefully you can piece together some families on the censuses from this, and see who "disappears". 

[lizdb]

Here are Frost burials, Farnham Essex, 1806 - 1841

3 MArch 1807 ELizabeth dtr of James and Sarah
12 Sep 1809 Elizabeth dtr of James and Sarah
22 Feb 1810 Benjamon son of James and Sarah
25 Feb 1810 Joseph son of James and Sarah
17 Oct 1814 Sarah dtr of Thomas and MAry age 1 week
5 Feb 1822 Sarah dtr of Thomas and Mary age 1 year and about 7 months
2 April 1824 William age 25
25 Dec 1827 Ann wife of Jonas age 26
24 Jun 1828 Sarah wife of James age 60
4 Dec 1831 Ann dtr of Thomas and Mary age 1?
10 Dec 1831 John son of Thomas and MAry infant
18 Dec 1831 Mary wife of Thomas age 36
15 Jan 1832 Betsy dtr of Thomas and Mary
30 March 1834 Sarah illegit dtr of Sarah Frost widow
11 Sep 1836 Sarah Frost widow age 35
8 Jan 1839 John Frost of The Union Stortford age 8
2 July 1839 Mary Frost age 39

So it looks as if the James and George I highlighted survived childhood. See if they are on censuses, if so that rules them out as the people who were transported.

[Dundee]

This is not the Same George FROST

The application to marry Elizabeth DOYLE records this George FROST as having arrived as a convict on the Fairlie.  If this is not the same George FROST, then your George did not arrive on the Fairlie.

Debra