Looking for a death or census please!

[groom]

I've tried Lather, Lother, Lotter and L* but nothing. 

Think I'll have to give up for the night and let someone else have a go.

Jan

[teaurn]

I've tried *er and nothing there either.

[t mo]

hi jan
pleasent dreams nite nite 
trevor

[teaurn]

I might have found something thought I'd get it down so we can then disprove it

RG12 piece 421 folio 14 page 21

BROOKER, Charles Head Married  M 52 1839 Bricklayer  Guildford Surrey
BROOKET, Harriett Wife Married  F 60 1831 Laundress   Canada North America


The ages fit as does his job although he is listed as unemployed but name and place of birth are completely different.  Could they have been incognito

[groom]

Sorry TU, that couple are on the 1881  RG11/647/147/45 living in Battersea. 

[teaurn]

Figured they would be somewhere but thought it worth a try.  Brain going into shut down now

will play again after work tomorrow if nothing has been found

[groom]

I've had another look and still nothing.

Charles Luther appears in the 1841 and 1851 censuses with his parents (father Charles, bricklayer) in Wiltshire aged 3 and 13.

In 1861 he is a bricklayer age 23, married to Ellen living in Shrewsbury.

In 1871 he is a bricklayer aged 33, married to Ellen living in Mile End London.

In 1881 he is a bricklayer aged 43, married to Harriet living in Shoreditch.

After that there is no trace in censuses or any deaths that fit.

Harriet's son Frederick is in the 1871 and 1881 censuses and then vanishes with again no death as far as I can see. I've also search for him as Frederick Luther.

Same with Harriet herself. There are 3 deaths of a Harriet Luther between 1881 and 1935 - one aged 57 in Hereford in 1891, one aged 54 in Eastbourne in 1899 and one aged 50 in E. Preston in 1934. The only possible is the first one, but as I said previously that was in the Sept quarter so she should appear in the 1891 census, which she doesn't.

The only explanation I can think of is that they did emigrate and that Frederick went with them.

Jan

[t mo]

hi groom
there is an emigration for a charles luther as well as frances - frances j - lilian- mary and may g but it,s for date of departure 26aug 1904
not a lot of help i think 
trevor

[groom]

Hi Trevor

I don't think any of the on line emigration records start before 1890 do they? We probably need some nearer 1881.

It's a real mystery 

Jan