Colchester Barracks 1856-1861

[t mo]

morning elissa
i ,ve found a death reg for
thomas aldous
dec1854
dist colchester
v 4a p 170
nothing for charles so far , on that marriage cert you have for william & lydia what are the names for there fathers & there occupations , i,m thinking that we may need to start looking further to see if there is a suffolk connection for all this, also on the 1851 cen lydia ,s living with sarah bareham born dedham , so there is a mistranscription on lydias name which one is correct barron or bareham  again what is on the marriage cert
 speak later
trevor

[edalmun]

Hi Trevor,

Lydia's parents Sarah and Charles Barron (stonemason) have had there name mispelt so many times I've lost count! I believe Barron to be the correct name as it is the one I have found most often.

On the marriage certificate William's father is a Thomas Aldous who is a whitesmith. I think that this Thomas Aldous died in 1839 and left a will, so I've ordered a copy from the Essex Records office that I should get sometime next week. This might explain a bit more about the family.  I presume that it was their father's death that caused the Aldous brothers to have to go into the workhouse. From the older brother's baptisms I have found that their mother was a Susanna, but I can find nothing more than that on her. She wasn't in the workhouse, so maybe she died as well.

I have contacted the graveyeard in Colchester where William would have been buried if he died in Colchester, but they have no record of him, so I'm pretty certain he didn't die there. If he had joined the army he could have ended up anywhere!

Elissa

[t mo]

afternoon elissa
just seen your question on the other posting for workhouse details i,ve put in a reply to it , but i would think william and his brother would have been in the workhouse within colchester itself which went on to become the st mary,s hospital in later life it,s gone now to make room for yet more houses in the town , a great shame as it was a good hos by all accounts

trevor

[edalmun]

I presumed it was the one within Colchester as that seems to have been where they were living. I didn't know it been turned into a hospital and then knocked down.

Elissa

[vabbott]

hi
there was more than one in colchester  One was at st botolph,
one at st albrights stanway, and of course St marys also

Ronnie

[edalmun]

Hi Ronnie,

I didn't know there was more than one-  thanks for that info. I have the census return for 1841 that shows they are in St Botolphs.

Thanks again,

Elissa

[t mo]

hi ronnie
where was this workhouse in st botlphs only i can,t find any record of it
trevor

[vabbott]

Hi

The main records seem to be of st botolphs but I believe these will all point to what eventually became St marys Hospital at the top of Balkerne Hill (no longer there I am afraid  But a very large site and actually i always found it a nice building I spent time in hospital there not long before it closed  I believe St albrights was also known as  Union only that will come under Lexden Colchester
  I have always been led to believe there was a small workhouse in on e of the back courts in St Botolphs street itself ,almost opposite the St Botolphs Church
and  is now a butchers and was a slaughter house  This is only hearsay I think if you have access to the census for st botolphs Street and searched the street it should show up......Hopefully  Will see what I can find out locally in our library as you have got me thinking now
Ronnie

[t mo]

hi ronnie your obviously an old  colchestrian as i am , your talking of allen,s the butchers then and behind that who knows what there was in the old days only what is now kwik fit there is an  open space which gave access to allens  and a car park for neeps garage as it was then , if you do go to library see if there any old maps , also i,ve just had a lok at the "workhouse site" and according to that in 1797 a survey was carried out and it states that each parish is responsible for it,s own poor this was until 1834 when the new poor law unions were set up and st marys took over as the sole workhouse for the town as you say allbrights being in lexden &winstree borough ( if ever a building was miss named this must be it ! ) i,ve never heard it called anything else but the spike !!.
thanks for your reply and hope to hear from you soon
trevor