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Re: NZ's first anarchist? Research help on Philip Josephs
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 23 October 10 02:14 BST (UK) »
Hi Jool,

That looks very much like them,well done

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Re: NZ's first anarchist? Research help on Philip Josephs
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 23 October 10 02:16 BST (UK) »
Excellent Jool

He certainly moved around a bit. Good work!

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Re: NZ's first anarchist? Research help on Philip Josephs
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 23 October 10 02:17 BST (UK) »
Wow Jool, that's great, thanks. Can you point out where you found that, for a beginner such as me?

Also, how would I find Scottish/UK passenger lists? I'd love to nail when he left Russia... Between 1877 and 1901 obviously...

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Re: NZ's first anarchist? Research help on Philip Josephs
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 23 October 10 02:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Jared, I found this on Ancestry.co.uk.  I'm just looking to see if there are any passenger lists for them.

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Re: NZ's first anarchist? Research help on Philip Josephs
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 23 October 10 02:24 BST (UK) »
lol I just edited my previous message asking for that, thanks!

I wonder what their names in Russian would have been... I'd say they've been modified.

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Re: NZ's first anarchist? Research help on Philip Josephs
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 23 October 10 02:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Jared,  Philip and Sophia must have arrived in Glasgow before 1898 as Jennie (Jeannie) was born there.

Not sure what info is available on passenger lists from Russia to UK, maybe someone can advise.

I am looking to see if I can find when they left U.K., on Ancestry.

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Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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Re: NZ's first anarchist? Research help on Philip Josephs
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 23 October 10 02:34 BST (UK) »
Fantastic work, Jool, you've cracked it!

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Re: NZ's first anarchist? Research help on Philip Josephs
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 23 October 10 02:36 BST (UK) »
When was the next Scottish Census? Josephs appears to be in Australia in 1904. He arrived on the "Prinz Regent Luilpold, so must have been between these two dates.

Found this, could be the boat: http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_ship.asp?sh=prilu

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Re: NZ's first anarchist? Research help on Philip Josephs
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 23 October 10 02:52 BST (UK) »
According to this site Prinzregent Luilpold arrived in Fremantle on Feb 15, 1904. Not listed in 1903.

http://www.ozships.net/ozships/

Jared

Edit: this is wrong! See later comments