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Re: NZ's first anarchist? Research help on Philip Josephs
« Reply #45 on: Saturday 23 October 10 03:00 BST (UK) »
Found the passenger list  ;D

New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922

Port of Departure: Bremen
Port of arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Prinz Regent Luitpold
26 Feb 1904

Mr. Philipp Josephs, Russian
Travelling with him, Sophia, Jeannie, Fanny, Jessie, Rosie.

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Re: NZ's first anarchist? Research help on Philip Josephs
« Reply #46 on: Saturday 23 October 10 03:02 BST (UK) »
Jool you beaut!

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Re: NZ's first anarchist? Research help on Philip Josephs
« Reply #47 on: Saturday 23 October 10 03:09 BST (UK) »
Jared
use that beta aus newspaper site I first gave you if you want to just browse the newspapers around February to see about the ship,

Do you realise with this forum there are different forums for different countries and counties of england so go to
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php main page and it may pay to make some postings Scotland and Europe
just add a copy of the webaddress for this NZ thread so people can see what work has already been done
Bye
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Re: NZ's first anarchist? Research help on Philip Josephs
« Reply #48 on: Saturday 23 October 10 03:39 BST (UK) »
Thanks I will do that.

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Re: NZ's first anarchist? Research help on Philip Josephs
« Reply #49 on: Saturday 23 October 10 21:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Jool,

I don't have access to Ancestry at the moment.
Can you please post here the image from the 1901 Scotland census with just the name of the city "Whithorn, Russia" ?

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Re: NZ's first anarchist? Research help on Philip Josephs
« Reply #50 on: Saturday 23 October 10 23:58 BST (UK) »
I've posted in the Scottish section here: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,491040.0.html

Has returned some more details others may be interested in seeing, such as marriage records.

Jared

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« Reply #51 on: Sunday 24 October 10 18:32 BST (UK) »
Can you please post here the image from the 1901 Scotland census with just the name of the city "Whithorn, Russia" ?

Hi Mike, Unfortunately there are no original images for Scottish census records on Ancestry, just a transcript, so Whithorn may have been mistranscribed or misunderstood by the enumerator.  I have googled Whithorn and come up with nothing in Russia.

According to the Naturalisation record Jared found, he was born in Libau (which was also known as Liepaja, but this doesn't sound much like Whithorn either).

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Re: NZ's first anarchist? Research help on Philip Josephs
« Reply #52 on: Sunday 24 October 10 20:59 BST (UK) »
Hi Jool,

That's why I asked for original image. Whithorn is not a Russian name. It can be Whitehorn (direct translation from Russian into English), but also no such settlement in Russia.

As for Philip's birth - according to Jared he was born Libau (Liepaja in Latvia today), in other source I have seen "near Odessa" - Ukraine today. But also this Whithorn - I cannot find Russian equivalent.


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Re: NZ's first anarchist? Research help on Philip Josephs
« Reply #53 on: Sunday 24 October 10 21:08 BST (UK) »
If we could locate Josephs' arrival in Scotland, we may be able to trace back yeah?

Jared