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John T McKenzie ( MacKenzie )
« on: Monday 25 October 10 21:00 BST (UK) »
I am looking for John T McKenzie

In 1901 census scotlandspeople John is  a fisherman aged 29
this comes at the bottom of the page so I cannot get any of his relatives living with him
I have contacted scotlandspeople to ask about this

I have him as informant to his Aunt Margaret McKenzie's death in 1907
as nephew .West Helmsdale Sutherland

I thought I would be able to find his birth but was unable to find it
Elizabeth

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Re: John T McKenzie ( MacKenzie )
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 26 October 10 00:45 BST (UK) »
Is he shown as single or married?  What is his birthplace in 1901

Was he living in Sutherland or elsewhere in 1901

I can't find a John T McKenzie b 1872 who was a fisherman on the site I use
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Re: John T McKenzie ( MacKenzie )
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 26 October 10 01:15 BST (UK) »
If John T. was at the bottom of the page you would have needed to view the next page to discover his family.

Is the man you seek the John T. MacKenzie 28   Fisherer   b. Gairloch, Rosshire?
I can only view a transcript I'm afraid but this is the only John T. I could find - if this is him the full household details are:

1901 - Strathnaver Street, Helmsdale, Sutherland

John T. Mackenzie   28     Fisherer       b. Gairloch, Rosshire
Dorothy Mackenzie  29                        b. Glenurquhart, Invernesshire
Jessie C. Mackenzie  3                         b. Helmsdale, Sutherland
James C. Mackenzie  20 (brother)       b. Gairloch, Rosshire
John G. Mackay 33    brother in law     b. Glenurquhart, Invernesshire
Minnie Miller    16     servant                b. Helmsdale, Sutherland.

John married as plain John to Dorothy MacKay in 1896 Inverness

Looking back on the census in 1881 John and his brother James are shown amongst the children of John Mackenzie, Fisher curer,  and wife Margaret, living in Gairloch.

John's birth appears to have been registered as plain John on 1/3/1872 Gairloch, Ross & Cromarty, son of John Mackenzie and Margaret Taylor (viewed on familysearch).  They married in Gairloch 19/11/1869.

Hope this is the right family.

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Re: John T McKenzie ( MacKenzie )
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 26 October 10 01:15 BST (UK) »
Carole
In the 1901 census he is a fisherman born Rosshire
Now having a second look at this i may have the wrong John T Mackenzie

But on Margaret's death in 1907 he is her nephew living in Helmsdale

I too have looked for his birth in Scotlandspeople

Margaret  had had four brothers all born Helmsdale
James b 1836 never married d in New Zealand
Adam b 1853 my grt grandfather he did not have a grandson John
Alexander b 1856 never married died in New Zealand
and John b abt 1850
now I cannot find this John Mackenzie ( McKenzie anywhere )either
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McKenzie,Helmsdale.,Mackay's,Gordon's,Polsons,Sutherland's,Loth & N/Z .Watson ,Munro,Pitsligo.Black. Harle ,East Hollywell.Black,and Short East Hollywell.Northumberland Gair, Amble,Douglas,Amble,Mitchell ,Fettercairns,Lyall, Brechin .Mearns Brechin.Thompson's ,Spittal. Maghie,Young .Raey Cumberland & Newcastle & Glasgow .Gilroy, Northumberland. Stark's Kyloe & Tweedmouth .Skeen's Tweedmouth.Gregsons Northumberland & America. Andrew Farmer Turnbull Berwick , Pool and Black Hull.Lounton Tweedmouth


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Re: John T McKenzie ( MacKenzie )
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 26 October 10 01:22 BST (UK) »
I couldn't find him in 1901 because you said he was 29 so I was using an 1872 birthyear.  If the 1901 entry above is the one you meant - he was 28

It certainly seems to tie in with the address on the death cert
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Re: John T McKenzie ( MacKenzie )
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 26 October 10 01:27 BST (UK) »
Oh! Annette we both clicked together
Just reading through

The family names are there Margaret's mother was Janet Known as Jessie Mackay Gordon her father Alexander

Margaret's sister Ann married a George Miller they had a daughter Willamina
could get Minnie

Margaret also had a sister Mina

If I could find John McKenzie born abt 1850 then I may can link this family you have found together

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McKenzie,Helmsdale.,Mackay's,Gordon's,Polsons,Sutherland's,Loth & N/Z .Watson ,Munro,Pitsligo.Black. Harle ,East Hollywell.Black,and Short East Hollywell.Northumberland Gair, Amble,Douglas,Amble,Mitchell ,Fettercairns,Lyall, Brechin .Mearns Brechin.Thompson's ,Spittal. Maghie,Young .Raey Cumberland & Newcastle & Glasgow .Gilroy, Northumberland. Stark's Kyloe & Tweedmouth .Skeen's Tweedmouth.Gregsons Northumberland & America. Andrew Farmer Turnbull Berwick , Pool and Black Hull.Lounton Tweedmouth

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Re: John T McKenzie ( MacKenzie )
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 26 October 10 01:30 BST (UK) »
Sorry Carole there is a mark over Johns age i took it to be 29

Elizabeth

You too clicked with me
Yes it could well be the family

I must get off to my bed
Goodnight and thank you both
be back in the morning
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McKenzie,Helmsdale.,Mackay's,Gordon's,Polsons,Sutherland's,Loth & N/Z .Watson ,Munro,Pitsligo.Black. Harle ,East Hollywell.Black,and Short East Hollywell.Northumberland Gair, Amble,Douglas,Amble,Mitchell ,Fettercairns,Lyall, Brechin .Mearns Brechin.Thompson's ,Spittal. Maghie,Young .Raey Cumberland & Newcastle & Glasgow .Gilroy, Northumberland. Stark's Kyloe & Tweedmouth .Skeen's Tweedmouth.Gregsons Northumberland & America. Andrew Farmer Turnbull Berwick , Pool and Black Hull.Lounton Tweedmouth

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Re: John T McKenzie ( MacKenzie )
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 26 October 10 01:36 BST (UK) »
John senior, according to 1881 census, bc.1849 Helmsdale, Sutherland.

Will see if I can find on earlier census.

Annette
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Re: John T McKenzie ( MacKenzie )
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 26 October 10 01:42 BST (UK) »
I have just gone into scotlandspeople and got the marriage of Margaret's brother John married to Margaret Taylor
Thank you for helping me find another sibling of Adam my grt grandfather

Elizabeth

anymore help will be great
McKenzie,Helmsdale.,Mackay's,Gordon's,Polsons,Sutherland's,Loth & N/Z .Watson ,Munro,Pitsligo.Black. Harle ,East Hollywell.Black,and Short East Hollywell.Northumberland Gair, Amble,Douglas,Amble,Mitchell ,Fettercairns,Lyall, Brechin .Mearns Brechin.Thompson's ,Spittal. Maghie,Young .Raey Cumberland & Newcastle & Glasgow .Gilroy, Northumberland. Stark's Kyloe & Tweedmouth .Skeen's Tweedmouth.Gregsons Northumberland & America. Andrew Farmer Turnbull Berwick , Pool and Black Hull.Lounton Tweedmouth