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Eversholt burial register
« on: Tuesday 26 October 10 15:28 BST (UK) »
If anyone has easy access to this I'd appreciate it if they could try and identify a couple of SMITH burials

Beds archives has a Deed Poll of 13 Feb 1838 naming James Smith [of Eversholt, grazier] and his wife Ann Smith,

Ann appears to be in Eversholt until the 1850s (1841 and 1851 census) but James isn't

The only death entries on Freebmd for Ann SMITH in the Woburn district are June 1851,  in 1854 and 1856, while there is a death record for James in 1843.

Ann was born in 1788, James ca 1785

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Re: Eversholt burial register
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 26 October 10 16:26 BST (UK) »
I assume you're Peter who posted on the same James and Ann Smith on the thread on the mailing list yesterday. As I put on that thread, there are no James or Anns buried in Eversholt 1810-51.

The James who died in 1843 in Woburn registration district appears to be the one buried in Salford on 1 June 1843 age 55. He may be the one who appears in 1841 in Salford age 50, ag lab, with Elizabeth, 50 and James 7

The Ann in Eversholt in 1841 and 1851 was married to John, a gardener, who was alive in 1851. I question whether this is the Ann, wife of James.

The Ann who died in the June quarter 1851 in Woburn registration district is probably Ann Smith aged 2 who was buried at Woburn on 22 June 1851. I don't have burials post 1851 to identify the other Anns

The same David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Eversholt burial register
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 26 October 10 16:45 BST (UK) »
BLARS has a will of James Smith of Eversholt, currier and farmer, ref 1845/32

There's a 59 year old James Smith buried at Bedford St Pauls on 5 Jan 1845, which may be a complete red herring - or perhaps not. In 1841 living in Bedford St Pauls
James Smith 55 currier
Ann Smith 50
William Smith 18 currier
sarah Smith 16
Elizabeth Smith 14
Ann Adams 6*

David

* There's an Ann Adams on the IGI taken from Ridgmont Baptist church book, born 31 July 1834, parents John Adams and Mary Smith
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Eversholt burial register
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 26 October 10 17:03 BST (UK) »
Got them! It looks as if it is the right James and Ann in 1841

1851. Gwyn St, Bedford St Paul
Ann Smith head widow 62 proprietor of houses b Kempston
William Smith son unmarr 28 currier b Eversholt
Elizabeth Smith dau unm 22 b Eversholt
Ann Bermick/Berwick/Barwick? grand dau 4 b Crawley Beds*

The 1810 marriage I found on the other board (James Smith of Eversholt and Ann Chalton/Charlton) was at Kempston

You really need that 1845 will, which if you're lucky might name all his children

David

* One of the problems of using two message boards is that vital snippets of information get missed. Rereading your query on the other board, I see it reads "My 3 x great grandmother Emma SMITH was born ca 1816, the daughter of James SMITH, in Eversholt according to the 1851 and 1861 census. In 1841 she was living in Woburn, marrying James BERWICK later that year and then lived in Husborne Crawley" So Ann Berwick granddaughter 4 b (Husborne) Crawley in 1851 provides the link between her mother Emma, and her grandparents James & Ann Smith, and ties it all up very neatly.

"Emma did use Ann as the name of her eldest daughter (my great grandmother)." - as Ann wasn't with her mother in 1851 I'm a bit surprised that you hadn't looked for her elsewhere in Beds - she's the only Ann Berwick in the county, for once indexed correctly by Ancestry. This nut didn't need the sledgehammer treatment that it's had!
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell


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Re: Eversholt burial register
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 26 October 10 19:09 BST (UK) »
David

That is a wonderful finding. The presence ofr Ann Berwick, my great garndmother, is conclusive proof that it is the right family. I'd been approsed ofa marriage in Kempston, to Ann Charlton, with all the children aparently being baptised as non-conformistss.

It also ties in nicely as my great granparents married, and then lived, in Bedfrod St Paul although both were born in HC

I've not got an Ancestry sub and I'd not spotted that Emma and Ann were living apart.

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Re: Eversholt burial register
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 26 October 10 20:38 BST (UK) »
As your original post on the mailing list referred to Emma in 1851 and 1861 I assumed you'd seen the entries.

1851
Long End, Husborne Crawley
Emma Berwick head widow 34 Baker b Eversholt
James Berwick son 6 scholar b Crawley
Charles Berwick son 1 b Crawley
Richard Chamberlain unmarr 23 Journeyman baker b Ridgmount Beds

You wrote "Emma's two children by James BERWICK" - it appears that Emma had three children by James, who died in the June quarter 1850

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Eversholt burial register
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 26 October 10 23:05 BST (UK) »
David

It does indeed. I'd seen the transcript as two children, knowing of James Smith BERWICK and Ann Smith BERWICK and somehow not registered that itwas a younger brother, their father having died in the 2nd quaretr of 1850

George Charles BERWICK being born in the last quarter of 1849

subsequently Emma married Richard CHAMBERLAIN in 1853

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Re: Eversholt burial register
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 16 November 10 19:52 GMT (UK) »
The will of James Smith is of the James married to Ann but unfortunately only explicitly names his wife and his eldest(surviving) son Samuel.  The residue to be divided between his surviving children

It was dated 1836