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Alton marriage help please
« on: Sunday 31 October 10 18:22 GMT (UK) »
Ive got an Elizabeth Cherryman who married a Frederick Watts in Alton, Hampshire in 1923.

They had a child Lucy born the same year in Alton and other children born in other counties.

What I would like to find out is the possibility that Elizabeth was married previously. I think there was a child born before the marriage. Can anyone help?

Thanks.
David.
Northants - Stevenson, Smith, Spriggs, Hight, Dodson, Coleman
Swansea - Thomas, Williams, Howell, David, Rees, Griffiths, Jenkins, Bevan
Rutland - Hales
Derbyshire - Harlow, Riley, Pemberton, Aldred
Yorkshire - Stamper, Boyes, Duke
London - Harper, Wallis
Essex - Shelford, Wallis, Read, Stanes
Hertfordshire - Bishop
Cornwall - Johns, Soper, Rowe, Ball, Webb, Dunn, Quintrell, Hain, Oliver
Gloucestershire - Harper, Ash, Gregory, Denman
County Durham - Proud, Duke
Yorkshire - Stamper, Pickering

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Re: Alton marriage help please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 31 October 10 19:15 GMT (UK) »
Unless somebody reading your post has a personal connection to this family - the only other way is buying a copy of the marriage cert
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Re: Alton marriage help please
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 31 October 10 19:17 GMT (UK) »
Freebmd shows no Cherryman marriage to an Elizabeth in Hampshire and the latest one for that combination is 1894 in Brighton

There is a 1914 Cherryman birth - mothers maiden name also Cherryman
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Re: Alton marriage help please
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 31 October 10 20:58 GMT (UK) »
How would I find out if she had a previous marriage and that Cherryman was not the name she was born with?

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Northants - Stevenson, Smith, Spriggs, Hight, Dodson, Coleman
Swansea - Thomas, Williams, Howell, David, Rees, Griffiths, Jenkins, Bevan
Rutland - Hales
Derbyshire - Harlow, Riley, Pemberton, Aldred
Yorkshire - Stamper, Boyes, Duke
London - Harper, Wallis
Essex - Shelford, Wallis, Read, Stanes
Hertfordshire - Bishop
Cornwall - Johns, Soper, Rowe, Ball, Webb, Dunn, Quintrell, Hain, Oliver
Gloucestershire - Harper, Ash, Gregory, Denman
County Durham - Proud, Duke
Yorkshire - Stamper, Pickering


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Re: Alton marriage help please
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 31 October 10 21:47 GMT (UK) »
Do you know when Elizabeth was born?

I can't see an Elizabeth CHERRYMAN in the 1901 census.
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Alton marriage help please
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 31 October 10 22:13 GMT (UK) »
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How would I find out if she had a previous marriage and that Cherryman was not the name she was born with?

The marriage cert will show whether she was a spinster or a widow when she married.  It will also show her fathers name which will be her birth surname
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« Reply #6 on: Monday 01 November 10 08:24 GMT (UK) »
Found her death on the BMD she died in 1961 aged 62 in Bridgend, Wales. Also Ive tried looking for her in the 1901 and cant find anything!

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Northants - Stevenson, Smith, Spriggs, Hight, Dodson, Coleman
Swansea - Thomas, Williams, Howell, David, Rees, Griffiths, Jenkins, Bevan
Rutland - Hales
Derbyshire - Harlow, Riley, Pemberton, Aldred
Yorkshire - Stamper, Boyes, Duke
London - Harper, Wallis
Essex - Shelford, Wallis, Read, Stanes
Hertfordshire - Bishop
Cornwall - Johns, Soper, Rowe, Ball, Webb, Dunn, Quintrell, Hain, Oliver
Gloucestershire - Harper, Ash, Gregory, Denman
County Durham - Proud, Duke
Yorkshire - Stamper, Pickering

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Re: Alton marriage help please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 February 23 20:47 GMT (UK) »
Ive got an Elizabeth Cherryman who married a Frederick Watts in Alton, Hampshire in 1923.

They had a child Lucy born the same year in Alton and other children born in other counties.

What I would like to find out is the possibility that Elizabeth was married previously. I think there was a child born before the marriage. Can anyone help?

Thanks.
David.

I've just saw a query today on a Facebook group (South African) that was linking an Elizabeth/Ella Johnstone to a marriage to Horace Cherryman in Cape Town South Africa (circa 1913 -certificate is on FamilySearch and Ancestry). The post said they moved to Wales after this marriage. Poster was looking for Elizabeth/Ella's parents but hitting a brick wall.  A quick search throws up few trees on Ancestry with these names but very little additional information.