Ashburnham in Sussex

[trish1120]

Excellent Kerry
Then the later date of birth on Census entries was correct!
I told you the elves would come out

[toni*]

if you are trying to prove the father of James i would suggest you look at overseers records to see if there was a bastardry bond in place for the reputed faterh to pay towards his upkeep also if you can try to see the original PR entry as the clerk may have scribbled something extra in the margin re the childs father 

[toni*]

also did the Earl leave a will perhaps he made provision for his illigitmate son

[trish1120]

James seems to be a Ag Lab all his life and ends up in the Workhouse in 1881 in Sunbridge, Kent.
So if the Earl was his Father it does not look like he provided for him

[toni*]

maybe not but there is always hope 

[trish1120]

True

[fishytales]

A bastardy bond would only be in place if Judith and/or her family made a claim against the Earl.I was informed that the Earl had tried to take the baby and failed, so the family would not have involved him.

[kerryb]

Thank you so much for that,you are very kind. Did you find it in the parish registers?
This means that she was only 13 when her son James was born.Poor girl!

Thanks again
fishytales

this came from the parish registers on database with sussex family history group.

I like Trish's description of me as an elf 

Kerry

[fishytales]

WEeeeelllllllll I think a picture would show if you were elf-like or not!!
Thank you for the info re the parish register. I guess Judith was born in 1800,daughter of Charles.The marriage cert of Henry Collins and Julia shows her father as Charles. It just arrived in the post
thanks agian kerry