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Finding My G Grandfathers Death
« on: Thursday 11 November 10 23:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I'm trying to find my G Grandfathers death.  He was Edgar Samuel Balls, b1876 in Gt Yarmouth.  I have found out quite a lot about him up to about 1911, but after that, nothing.  I know he was still alive in 1911 and in some of the census's he was listed as just Samuel.  I have searched and searched the death lists time and time again and come up with nothing.

On my Grandfather's marriage cert in 1928, he is listed as deceased and his occupation was stealworks labourer, which points to him being in Sheffield.  Whether or not he died pre 1928 is debatable, as he is supposed to have left his wife and family, so he may have been "deceased" in their eyes.

Could anyone give me some advice as to what other research I could carry out to find out what happened to him.  I don't suppose it helps that he flitted between Yarmouth and Sheffield for in the part of his life that I know about.

Cheers David
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Re: Finding My G Grandfathers Death
« Reply #1 on: Friday 12 November 10 00:16 GMT (UK) »
Where was he living in 1911
EDIT

Checked 1911 index and he was in Yarmouth (shown as Samuel)

Did he marry Florence Hough?  freebmd has a Balls/Hough birth in 1913 in Ecclesall Bierlow Yorkshire
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Re: Finding My G Grandfathers Death
« Reply #2 on: Friday 12 November 10 11:42 GMT (UK) »
Where was he living in 1911
EDIT

Checked 1911 index and he was in Yarmouth (shown as Samuel)

Did he marry Florence Hough?  freebmd has a Balls/Hough birth in 1913 in Ecclesall Bierlow Yorkshire

Hi Carole, he married Florence Hough from Sheffield in 1900.  I found her and the kids on the 1911 census, living in Yarmouth, no sign of him though.  Was the Samuel you found in Yarmouth born in 1876?? 

The child, Walter, that you found in 1913 is definitely them.  This could put my avatar photo date at the start of the war not the 1911 coronation as I thought.  The baby that Florence is holding must be Walter, I always thought it was a girl.  I don't think he was in the army at this time, though he took part in the Boer War, I would have thought he pulled the uniform on for the photo, allthough I may be wrong.

Cheers David

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Re: Finding My G Grandfathers Death
« Reply #3 on: Friday 12 November 10 16:00 GMT (UK) »
He appears to have enlisted in the Royal  Artillery as Samuel. Reg. No.  3280, in 1905, he survived the war, his Army records are on Ancestry.

Sorry, I after reading through all the records,it looks as if this may be a different man after all

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CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.


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Re: Finding My G Grandfathers Death
« Reply #4 on: Friday 12 November 10 16:28 GMT (UK) »
He appears to have enlisted in the Royal  Artillery as Samuel. Reg. No.  3280, in 1905, he survived the war, his Army records are on Ancestry.

Sorry, I after reading through all the records,it looks as if this may be a different man after all

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Yes, that Samuel Balls was born in abt 1881.  The five is an eight, making the year he enlisted 1908 and he was 27, making his birth year 1881.  Also next of kin is listed as his father Samuel, my man's father was Thomas.  He's sooooo frustrating.

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Re: Finding My G Grandfathers Death
« Reply #5 on: Friday 12 November 10 17:57 GMT (UK) »
When I checked the 1911 index, I found a Samuel Balls aged 36 living in Yarmouth so assumed that was him

However - when I use the cross referencing formula - it does not show a Florence in the same household so it may well be a different Samuel
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Re: Finding My G Grandfathers Death
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 13 November 10 00:12 GMT (UK) »
When I checked the 1911 index, I found a Samuel Balls aged 36 living in Yarmouth so assumed that was him

However - when I use the cross referencing formula - it does not show a Florence in the same household so it may well be a different Samuel

It is a different Samuel, he is living with his father, also Samuel.  My man's father was Thomas, he was a fisherman and died sometime between Edgar's conception and birth registration, 1875 or 6, no trace of his death either.
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