ITALY: Ignazio Mugnaio aka Matthew Miller

[suanj]

Hi Suanj

You said in your last message that you had found Ignazio Megna in 1860 in Santa Flavia
can you tell me where you found that ?
My cousin is really interested - she is also going to Liverpool on Tuesday -  so is going to be checking out Lancashire Martoranos

Hope you are doing good !
Let me know if I can help you too OK?

Regards

Annie

Hi Annie,
yes, I found  this records about 4 Ignazio MEGNA emigrated in USA  http://ellisisland.org/search/passSearch.asp :


 Exact Matches (4) 
   
1. Ignazio Megna    born in Sferracavallo common(Palermo province)  emigrated in  1900 -  37 old (so born abt 1863) ;

2. Ignazio Megna   born in  Palermo (Palermo province)    emigrated in 1920 - 29 old ( so born abt 1891)

3. Ignazio Megna   born in Santa Flavia ( Palermo province) emigrated in 1902 - 29 old ( so born abt 1873)

4. Ignazio Megna  born in Palermo, emigrated in 1909-  49 old (so born abt 1860)   

this only for let you know that this name was present in Palermo area about year of your interest...
Also in Santa Flavia( as already saying) was present the name  Girolamo(= Jerome)  MEGNA with this record:

  GIROLAMO MEGNA 
  Male     
   

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Event(s):
 Birth:  07 JUL 1817   
 
 Christening:  07 JUL 1817   Santa Flavia, Palermo, Italy
 
 Death: 
 Burial: 
   
Marriages:
  Spouse:  NINFA MARTORANO  Family
  Marriage:  22 APR 1841   Santa Flavia, Palermo, Italy
 

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Parents:
  Father:  ANGELO MEGNA 
  Mother:  RAFFAELA GRAVINA



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This is only an suggestion ...... why MUGNAIO surname have little rilevance in Sicily and no in Palermo area....normally the italian emigrants moved with other family members in foreign country, so is possible that someone of this mentioned surnames was present also in Lancashire....
 My best regards,
suanj

[JDG]

Many other members have given you suggestions., but have a look at these:

http://gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/genera.html

Insert the surname of Muganio into the search box on the left hand side. It shows the occurances of the surname in Sicily, which amounts to two communes, each with 1-5 people with the surname.

Also have a look at the Anglo Italian FHS web page - http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk

There are some research interests online. You can also join the Society from the links on the web page. Also have you posted to the Anglo Italian mailing list at Rootsweb?

http://www.anglo-italian-L-request@rootsweb.com

There are archives for the mailing list back to when the list started in 2002 and the Society transcriptions co-ordinator is working very hard to collate as much as possible on Italians in the UK.


Good luck!

[suanj]

Dear Annie, many long time...!
today, casually I see an message in another forum... well this search's message is very similar with YOUR search:
title: Grandfather
  Author: Norman Miller  Date: 3 Jan 2003 8:25 PM GMT 
  Classification: Query

Gianni Mugnaio, born Palermo circa1853, was a seaman arrived in Liverpool,England,changed his name to John Miller, married Rose Cosh sometime around 1870,s. Died in Liverpool around 1910.
If anyone can help or assist I would appreciate it

Grandfather Mugnaio born Palermo circa 1853
  Author: Norman Miller  Date: 3 Jan 2003 8:33 PM GMT 
  Classification: Query

Looking for anyone familiar with the name Mugnaio. First name Gianni Became a Merchant seaman. Came to Liverpool England sometime in 1860's changed name to John Miller married Rose Cosh in Liverpool around 1870-1880. Died in Liverpool around 1910.
Apreciate anyone having information regarding the name or family history.

Thank you,
Norman E. Miller
 Dear Annie, as you can see, the discrepance is about the first name: Ignazio/Matthew and Gianni/John... your suggestions? many regards, suanj

[liverpool annie]

Oh WOW!!

suanj! - that's wonderful - that's HIM - but the first name is different - Rose Cosh being the link - my Matthew married Rose Cosh!! where did you find it? is there an address? it's a couple of years old - I hope it's still available!

You are the best!! Thank you very much!

Annie

[suanj]

Hi Annie, here are the
2 messages

could be that the real name was Giovanni( Gianni is an diminutive) and no Ignazio? this Norman could be another descendant..perhaps an your cousin? Kisses, suanj

[liverpool annie]

This is so cool suanj!
How wonderful of you to keep looking for me !
I've sent a message to my cousin (she's the one who went to Sicily etc ) so I thought I'd give her first chance!

Thank you again - that's such good news!

Annie 

[suanj]

  suanj

[suanj]

Hi Annie, just another suggestion.... you say me that the surname was MUGNAIO because the MILLER is the english translation of italian Mugnaio... but the meaning is also Molinaro/i that in Italy, and especially in south Italy, it is used with same meaning, and Molinaro/i is also an surname.... you have some document wich are wrote Mugnaio really or no? Could be  Molinaro/i also? regards, suanj

[liverpool annie]

Hi suanj!

The marriage certificate says Mugnaio! though they did get married in Liverpool!
By the way my cousin had already been in contact with the guy on the postings you gave me yesterday!

But you were wonderful to spot it and give it to me!
Hows your research going?
Let me know if you need anything!!

Annie