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STANTON/LYONS MARRIAGE>
« on: Friday 19 November 10 10:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi there
I'm trying to find marriage details of my grt grandparents.
Michael Stanton to Ellen Lyons.   I believe they were married in Co. Cork. Ireland. about 1878 - 1883.   He was a labourer.   Ellens mother may have been called Hannah Lyons.
I would really love some help!
Kind Regards.
Frances  ( Koha)
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DURHAM: CROZIER/DRAPER/LAWSON/LEWINS/DOUGLAS/HUTCHINSON/  Hall/GILL/ HANTON.
BERKSHIRE: SEAMAN
CORK, IRELAND:  SEAMAN/STANTON/LYONS/MAHONEY,
CUMBERLAND:  FARREN/MOSSOP/BROCKLEBANK
LANCASHIRE: SIMPSON

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Re: STANTON/LYONS MARRIAGE>
« Reply #1 on: Friday 19 November 10 10:35 GMT (UK) »
Full Civil registration started in Ireland in 1864 - so the marriage of Michael & Ellen should have been registered :

 See : Introduction to Irish Records

Do you know what religion the family where and what part of Cork they lived in ?

RC parish records for parts of Co. Cork (west county & city) are available (free) at : www.irishgenealogy.ie


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Re: STANTON/LYONS MARRIAGE>
« Reply #2 on: Friday 19 November 10 11:05 GMT (UK) »
lots of Lyons marriages in County Cork over those years, so didn't think the search would be easy without a detailed location - but there is a possible match with the surname Staunton...

 Name: Ellen Lyons
 Registration District: Cork
 Event Type: Marriage
 Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1881
 volume : 5 / page : 74

 Name: Michael Staunton
 [same index references]

The registration district of Cork covers the City and parts of the surrounding county.



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Re: STANTON/LYONS MARRIAGE>
« Reply #3 on: Friday 19 November 10 11:29 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that Shane  -  I had no luck  on those links you posted.
The family were definitely RC.
Thanks again
Koha ( Frances)
DURHAM: CROZIER/DRAPER/LAWSON/LEWINS/DOUGLAS/HUTCHINSON/  Hall/GILL/ HANTON.
BERKSHIRE: SEAMAN
CORK, IRELAND:  SEAMAN/STANTON/LYONS/MAHONEY,
CUMBERLAND:  FARREN/MOSSOP/BROCKLEBANK
LANCASHIRE: SIMPSON


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Re: STANTON/LYONS MARRIAGE>
« Reply #4 on: Friday 19 November 10 11:31 GMT (UK) »
you can order a cert from the GRO using those references to see if the details fit with what you know about Michael & Ellen - see :

 Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon
 Details included on a Marriage Cert



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Re: STANTON/LYONS MARRIAGE>
« Reply #5 on: Friday 19 November 10 11:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Shane
I dont think Staunton is right.
I think they were in  Queenstown urban Cork.
Thanks.
Frances.
DURHAM: CROZIER/DRAPER/LAWSON/LEWINS/DOUGLAS/HUTCHINSON/  Hall/GILL/ HANTON.
BERKSHIRE: SEAMAN
CORK, IRELAND:  SEAMAN/STANTON/LYONS/MAHONEY,
CUMBERLAND:  FARREN/MOSSOP/BROCKLEBANK
LANCASHIRE: SIMPSON

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 19 November 10 11:43 GMT (UK) »
Spelling of surnames were not standardized and could depend on literacy, who filled out the record etc - so I wouldn't discount Staunton instead of Stanton as a possibility..

Queenstown/Cobh is included in the registration district of Cork.


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Re: STANTON/LYONS MARRIAGE>
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 14 December 10 10:05 GMT (UK) »
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Spelling of surnames were not standardized and could depend on literacy, who filled out the record etc - so I wouldn't discount Staunton instead of Stanton as a possibility..

I would second what Shane has written. I have done a lot of research on Lyons in Cork, and one can find that even the same priest has written in Lyons, Lyon, Lion, Line, Lines.

One cannot overstress the question of literacy levels in Ireland at that time, even among priests. On top of that the people themselves were generally illiterate, so never had a written form of their name, only a spoken one, and the priest just wrote down what he heard.

The proximity of Stanton and Staunton would make me believe that it was worth a lot more work in researching this marriage.
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Re: STANTON/LYONS MARRIAGE>
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 16 December 10 06:10 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that Corisande.
I'ts a puzzle. On the 1901 census both Michael Stanton and his wife, Ellen, are described as Illiterate but on the 1911 census they are Literate!
They were both born in Cork City where they lived for at least 20 years and raised their family.  Both are R.C.  and I believe they were married between 1881 - 1887.
I'll keep trying.
Thanks again and God Bless
Frances ( Koha)
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DURHAM: CROZIER/DRAPER/LAWSON/LEWINS/DOUGLAS/HUTCHINSON/  Hall/GILL/ HANTON.
BERKSHIRE: SEAMAN
CORK, IRELAND:  SEAMAN/STANTON/LYONS/MAHONEY,
CUMBERLAND:  FARREN/MOSSOP/BROCKLEBANK
LANCASHIRE: SIMPSON