Clayhouse yard, ?White Cross street.

[Eilleen]

Hi
I have been trawling this board, hoping to find some mention about a
     
            Asylum for homeless poor , Clayhouse yard, White Cross street,

I'm looking for imformation on where to find the 1851 census for this place 

big thank you from Eilleen.

[Meliora]

Hello,Eillen,

I have checked White Cross Street in the 1851 census & cannot find a Clayhouse Yard but there is a Playhouse Yard,  probably a mistranscrirption somewhere.

1851 census
Playhouse Yard  White Cross Street St Luke
HO105/1522  folios 175-180
                                145-150

I checked thro' these folios but could not identify a school for the homeless, the occupants all seemed to be general workers & traders.

Hope this helps,

Meliora

[Valda]

Hi


As a large institution it should be returned separately at the end of the area's schedule with any other institutions

Certainly seems to be Playhouse Yard as Meliora has found for you.

http://www.victorianlondon.org/mayhew/mayhew26.htm


Regards

Valda

[Meliora]

Yes, Valda,

Schools & Institutions are generally shown at the end of the Street Index but on the 1851 they are shown within the list of streets under Schools.

I did check the end of the Streets index & also the list of Schools but still no School for the Homeless was shown.

PLayhouse Yard is also shown under the City of London 1851 census as Playhouse Yard, Water Lane, 
HO107/1258  folios 78-79.
Whitecross Street is also within this piece no.. I checked the Street Index but there is no School for the Homeless shown either at the end of the list or under Schools.

Perhaps an enquiry would help at the Guildhall Library for the City of London Playhouse Yard, I am not too sure whether the St Luke one would come under the London Metrpolitan Archives or the Guildhall.

Meliora

[[Ray]]

Hi Eilleen

Are you looking for anyone in particular?

Ray

[Valda]

Hi Meliora


I wasn't thinking a school when I read the description (from link given). It doesn't seem to indicate a school, more a homeless nightly refuge?

Asylums for the Houseless Poor.
'Those who wish to be taught in this, the severest school of all, should pay a visit to Playhouse-yard, and see the homeless crowds gathered about the Asylum, waiting for the first opening of the doors, with their bare feet—blue and ulcerous with the cold—resting for hours on the ice and snow in the streets, and the bleak stinging wind blowing through their rags. To hear the cries of the hungry, shivering children, and the wrangling of the greedy men, scrambling for a bed and a pound of dry bread, is a thing to haunt one for life. There are four hundred and odd creatures utterly destitute—mothers with infants at their breasts— fathers with boys holding by their side—the friendless—the pen­niless—the shirtless—shoeless—breadless—homeless; in a word, the very poorest of this the very richest city of the world.'....'reports of the Asylum for the Houseless Poor, shows the different callings of the parties who have frequented these places of nightly shelter for the last seventeen years....'

The asylum can be found on the 1861 census (RG9 207 - quite some pages are missing so maybe the whole is missing in 1851?) listed as 'Asylum for Homeless Poor' in 1861. There seems to be about 400 people of all ages listed for the night of the census in 1861.


If this is the Society who ran this institution the records are at the LMA and Guildhall Library (worth checking first because some collections formerly at the Guildhall Library are now at the LMA)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/subjectView.asp?ID=O74674


'The Houseless Poor Society was founded in 1819 to provide warmth, food and shelter for London's homeless and destitute during winter...The Houseless Poor Society's establishments were later taken over by the Church Army, a church mission founded in 1882..'

Taken from the Workhouse website though it doesn't mention a refuge in Playhouse Yard run by this society.


http://www.workhouses.org.uk/

The section on the website is under the heading ' Charity Refuges'

 

Regards

Valda

[Eilleen]

Valda ,

excellent ,  thank you , this seems to be the place I am looking for .

meal is on table will be back soon


Eilleen

[Eilleen]

http://london1850.com/

Hope this link works, I need more help   

on this map what area do I need to be in to findPlayhouse yard.

Eilleen

[keyboard86]

Hi Eileen, on your wonderful map, go to approx the middle green area (Islington and Clerkenwell) scroll down to Clerkenwell Green/Old Street, Whitecross Street is just below with Golden Lane beside it, brings back memories of my time working in Hatton Garden, and walking to Whitecross Street market!

Keyboard86