A total mystery- help please

[lizdb]

WHat is her name? And hers and William's dob and pob?
And if pos the ref for them in 1891...
Then we will have a hunt around!

If William gave his son the middle name Neijer in 1885, then that is well before this wedding in 1891, so he knew the Neijer family or was related to them - he wasnt just a "passer by" who witnessed the hurried marriage and had not known the couple before.
Actually, thinknig about it, if the witnesses were William Parry and his sister, then the link is likely to be via Williams family, not his wife, as I was thinking it might be before.

[rocky3]

William Parry bc 1857 ( haven't got birth cert, too many)  Liverpool.

Wife Jane bc1857 Liverpool. Born 1854, have cert b West Derby.

William was a book keeper. married 1880 West Derby.

I did wonder where William was on the 1861, first census he should be on - and if there was a connection there, as he wasn't with his parents.

[rocky3]

Yes that's what I am thinking. They must have known each other well, or been related? in some way?

Checked again, grandfather b 1884, not 1885, my mistake. But doens't alter the fact they knew each other.

[lizdb]

Am I looking at the right WIlliam Parry in 1891?
RG122941 48 31,
43 Barrington Rd Toxteth Park
...but this one is a Clerk General Produce (not a book keeper)  and his son William is aged 10, not 6 or 7 .......

[lizdb]

Just looked at birth indexes - it seems that grandad William Parry wasnt given th emoddle name Neijer when his birth was registered (have you got birth cert?) so it is possible of course that he just added the middle name later himself, perhaps just fancying something 'different' !

[rocky3]

Yes that's correct, for the 91. It was William's son that was given the name Neijber as a middle name and as William was bc 1857 and Jacques Neijber bc 1855/1857, Then William Parry and Jacques must have known each other

I have the birth cert and Neijber is on it.

[rocky3]

Not sure about this one for the 1881. Only thing I have found today. Clara Neyler bc 1860 France. RG11 3704 121 p 13. Married and with Zau Neylor? In West Derby, Liverpool.

[lizdb]

Yes that's correct, for the 91.

I have the birth cert and Neijber is on it.

Sorry, but this is still troubling me!   

I cant see a birth reg in the index for William Neijber Parry ....
And the 1891 family has a 10 yr old William not a 7 yr old William with them! 
I want to be 100%sure that the 1891 family is the right one.
I se they have a 3 wk old unnamed baby in the household - so bit of a busy time for them if they (or even just Dad) were off to a wedding 5 days later!

What are all the detials on William NeijberParry's birth cert? Date, place, etc, dads name and occ, mums name and maiden name .....

[rocky3]

I think I have confused things!

William Parry bc1857,  gave his son the middle name of Neijber. William would have known Jacques Neijber, and was a witness to Jacques marriage of 1891.

It is William bc 1857 that is missing off the 61 census.

It is Arthur E (N) that has Neijber.