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Offline Helina

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In another muddle, help please.......
« on: Tuesday 07 December 10 12:26 GMT (UK) »
On ancestry awhile back found a entry for Edith Mary Neale born on the 2-8-1909 Pilning Gloucestershire. Parents Charles Neale and Ellen Williams.

To day found a baptism entry on familysearch pilot site for Edith Mary Neale, same parents and area but different date 25-1-1907.

One must be wrong but which one.

Due to financial reasons I do not subscribe to ancestry so cannot check their entry.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: In another muddle, help please.......
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 December 10 12:31 GMT (UK) »
there is a death for a edith mary neale 1991 she was born 19th feb 1905


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Re: In another muddle, help please.......
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 December 10 12:38 GMT (UK) »
edith born in 1907 has the middle name marie not mary, the only other i can see was born 1901 can't see the other one?

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Re: In another muddle, help please.......
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 December 10 11:05 GMT (UK) »
Helina,

Free bmd only gives the 1907 birth registration and there's no death recorded between then and 1909; so I reckon the 1907 info. to be more reliable than that for the 1909.

Did you perhaps make an error when looking in Ancestry and recorded another date or whatever?   ;)  Perhaps some Chatter with an Ancestry account could check it out.  I'm unable to do so - my wife's computer is unavailable and she has the account.

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Re: In another muddle, help please.......
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 December 10 11:24 GMT (UK) »
Helina

If I  were you I'd find out everything I could about each Edith Neale - it looks like there were at least three - and would value Ancestry less than other sources, if independent.

Mary is no use at all (thousands of Mary) and Edith - humm.
How many people lived in Pilning at that time and how many were Neal/Neal/Niel etc?

Try to find sisters/ brothers and descendants until you have a pattern detailed enough to distinguish one Edith from another.
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Re: In another muddle, help please.......
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 December 10 12:09 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry has a tree with an Ethel Mary Neale, dob 22nd Novemner 1909 in Gloucestershire - but no citations.

There is also a birth for Ethel Mary Neale, December qtr 1909, Thornbury.

Can't see any Edith Mary Neale for 1909
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Re: In another muddle, help please.......
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 December 10 12:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi all  :)

Helina, you can do a free search fur surname Neale born Pilning here
www.1911census.co.uk

Looks like there were indeed an Ethel and an Edith.

 
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Re: In another muddle, help please.......
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 09 December 10 12:29 GMT (UK) »
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On ancestry awhile back found a entry for Edith Mary Neale born on the 2-8-1909 Pilning Gloucestershire. Parents Charles Neale and Ellen Williams.


This reads as though you found it on someone else's tree.  If so, you would be wise to follow esdel's advice.  Treat it with extreme caution until you can verify the details yourself.

There have been numerous posts (and complaints) on RootsChat about the innaccuracies on trees published in this way   :o

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Re: In another muddle, help please.......
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 09 December 10 15:23 GMT (UK) »
Helina,

So; never accept information from others (and that includes trees found anywhere) unless verifiable and reliable source information such as PR's, censuses etc. is also given.   Even if you are unable to verify the data yourself, it may help others when you help them in later years.

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Bevstn:DAVIES:HIGGS:PERROT
Bisly:BROWN:COOK:CURTIS:DAVIS:FRANKLIN:GARDINER:GRIME:JEFFERIES:PEACEY:STEPHENS:WARREN
ChSod:HARDING:HIGGS
Colrne:GOLDEN
G Bad:DAVIES
Horsly:ADAMS:BAYLY:BIRD:COOK:EVANS:GAZARD:HILL:LEWIS:MATTHEWS:PRIDE:SKIRTON:TEAKLE:TURK:WALKLEY:YOUNG
K'St:BISHOP:PINEGAR
Marsh'd:BLAKE
Minch:HILL:MASON:PERRIN
N.Nib:PERROT:SHATFORD:WAYMAN:WOODWARD
N.Wrax:BLAKE