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Offline DoctorJef

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Date only please.
« on: Friday 10 December 10 14:16 GMT (UK) »
This picture is someone who is clearly identified on the back of the picture.  two copies of the picture have different inscriptions.  A date will hopefully pin down which bit of the family tree this person should be connected to.  TIA.

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Re: Date only please.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 10 December 10 16:05 GMT (UK) »
Out of interst, where is this John Poole from? I have some Pooles in the tree.

I think the date of this is quite difficult. The only key feature is the collar, which was in vouge from about 1795-1830.

This particularly reminds me of this portrait of Andrew Jackson:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Andrew_jackson_head.gif

Which was probably made about 1830.

I don't know if anyone could place the hair.

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« Reply #2 on: Friday 10 December 10 17:15 GMT (UK) »
I'd agree with David...deffo pre-photography era....

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Re: Date only please.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 December 10 20:28 GMT (UK) »
John Poole is "grandmother's Uncle from Dumfries".
This is just a bit odd, because all Grandmother Pools's family were from Hampshire.
This did include a John Pool (they kept altering the spelling) and he could have gone to Scotland.  There are a lot of Pool(e)s in the Annan area of Dumfries - mostly sheep-farmers.
My lot were mostly tailors.

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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 December 10 11:29 GMT (UK) »
Well the hair is exactly the style that Georgette Heyer's heros wore - so does that help date it??  Her stories were set about 1810 - 1815 ish.    ;) ;)   ;D ;D    it isn't a very scientific guess - but it might help!   or more definitely have a look at this image of Gov Lachlan Macquarie done about 1818-1819.

He's very handsome your rellie!!

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Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 13 December 10 16:17 GMT (UK) »
If the picture was made in the 1830s, then it is almost certainly John Poole - born in Hartley Wintney, Hampshire, in 1788. This would fit the inscription on the back "Grandmother's Uncle from Dumfries", and on the back of the second: "Great Uncle John Poole".  This assumes that the subject in the picture is aged in the mid 40s.  If I am right, and the picture is a Calotype, then the Scottish connection gets stronger (it was a popular technique in Scotland) so there is another assumption that he moved up from Hampshire to Dumfries.
Tracing him up there will be a whole lot of fun.
Thanks everyone
Geoff
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