Benjamin NICHOLAS and Margaret PROTHERO Llywel

[Joanna Tolhurst]

Hi,
I'm stuck with my great great great grandparents Benjamin NICHOLAS and Margaret PROTHERO and  would welcome any suggestions.

Benjamin was born about 1791 in Breconshire and died 17 March 1848 at Twynfelynfach Trianmawr near Llywel/Trescastle. He was a miller.
Margaret was born about 1790 in Trecastle and died 23 February 1854 at Trehowell Trainanglaes near Llywel/Trescastle.

They had the following children:
Mary: christened 22 Dec 1811 Llywel, married Thomas Jones 11 Nov 1843 Newport and lived in Risca
Margaret: christened 5 June 1814 Llywel,
Margaret: christened 8 Dec 1815 Llywel, servant at Tal-y-llyn 1841, housemaid at Pwll farm with sister Eliza 1851
Sibbil: christened 9 March 1817 Llywel, died 1836 at Tresgob, buried 15 June 1836 Llywel
Howell: christened 5 April 1818 Llywel, lodging at Blaina 1841, at Risca 1851 with sister, not found after 1854
Gwenllian: christened 18 Aug 1819 Llywel, with parents 1841, at Trecastle 1851 with sister Elizabeth
Elizabeth: christened 12 June 1821 Llywel, died 1823 at Trianmawr, buried 17 May 1823 Llywel
Sarah: christened 12 June 1821 Llywel, died Trianmawr 1822, buried 21 June 1822 Llywel
Elizabeth: christened 30 May 1823 Llywel, died Trianmawr 1823, buried 23 July 1823 Llywel
William: christened 30 May 1823 Llywel, died 1823 Trianmawr buried 20 Nov 1823 Llywel
Elizabeth: christened 15 Sept 1824 Llywel, at Trecastle 1851 with sister Gwenllian
Magdalene: christened 9 Dec 1826 Trecastle Calvinistic, servant in Trecastle 1841, died 16 June 1845 at Twynfelynfach Traianmawr
Sarah: christened 26 July 1829 Trecastle Calvinistic, with parents 1841, died 30 Jan 1848 at Twynfelynfach Traianmawr
Richard: christened 14 Aug 1831 Trecastle Calvinistic, with parents 1841, 1851 in Risca with sister Mary, 1861 and 1871 in Llanwonno, 1881 and 1891 in Aberdare
Eliza: born 1833 Trecastle, with parents 1841, nursemaid 1851 at Pwll farm with sister Margaret, married William Hughes 22 Jan 1861 in Aberdare, 1871 in Worcester, 1881, 1891, 1901 in Mountain Ash.

Thanks for any suggestions or hints.
Jo

[CaroleW]

Hi Jo

Can you clarify what it is you want help with?  You have given an awful lot of info but not said what you are still looking for?

I'm making a guess that you are looking to go back beyond Benjamin and Margaret - is that right

[Joanna Tolhurst]

yes - anything that may be a clue to finding Benjamin or Margaret's births or even their marriage (it wasn't found in the Llywel records).
Any clues also to the children I haven't managed to trace: Margaret, Howell, Gwenllian and  Elizabeth.  I guess the girls may have married. Sometimes following teh children finds clues to other family members.
Jo

[CaroleW]

Per freebmd

Marriages September qtr 1853   
Gwenllian Nicholas    Crickhowell  11b 137

Thomas Hemus and Howell Moses on same page

[Joanna Tolhurst]

been trying to find that Gwenllian with Thomas or Howell in 1861

[CaroleW]

So have I - zilch so far and same in 1871

 

[CaroleW]

Thomas Hemus was b 1830 Gellygaer, Glamorgan per 1851 census and the only Howell Moses I can find was b 1788!!

[CaroleW]

She didn't marry Thomas Hemus - just found him on the English 1861 - wife was Elizabeth

[CaroleW]

Have a look at the 1881 entry for Howel (one L) Moses b 1831

Wife is Ann b 1829 Breconshire - could Ann be a shortened Gwenllian

Living in Monmouthshire