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Wright Family? Maybe from Dublin?
« on: Wednesday 29 December 10 19:59 GMT (UK) »
Caroline Wright married Hugh Carmichael of Dublin.  He died in 1860 and she in 1869.   I am well able to follow the history of the Carmichael side of the family but thus far have had no luck with the Wrights...Anyone with any clues?

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Re: Wright Family? Maybe from Dublin?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 December 10 20:02 GMT (UK) »
Do you have any other details ?
.. i.e. their religion, what part of Dublin city or county they lived, where and when they married etc

Full civil registration started in 1864, so you would need to check for available parish records to work further back.

see : Introduction to Irish Records

p.s. was Hugh a surgeon ?


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Re: Wright Family? Maybe from Dublin?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 30 December 10 06:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Shane, 

Thanks for your reply.

My guess is that the Carmichaels were Church of Ireland, as Jamesina - my Gt Gran - was christened at St Nicholas Without, Dublin - which was C of I.

Googling "Hugh Carmichael+architect" I got this:
Selected: CARMICHAEL, HUGH

Born: -
Died: 1860

    * Biography
    * Works


Architect, of Dublin. Hugh Carmichael was admitted to the Dublin Society's School of Drawing in Architecture on 26 June 1834,(1) and was also a pupil of WILLIAM DEANE BUTLER.  (2) He exhibited at the Royal Hibernian Academy between 1841 and 1850.(3) In 1854 he formed a partnership with ALFRED GRESHAM JONES  , which lasted until his death in 1860.(4)

RIAI: associate by1843;(5) elected fellow, 17 January 1850.(6)

Addresses:(7) Work: 72 Harcourt Street, 1841; 2 Harcourt Street, 1842-3; 5 Dawson Street, 1844; 5 Dawson Street & 45 York Street, 1845; 45 York Street, 1846; 128 Stephen's Green, 1847-52; 3 Molesworth Street, 1853-1860.
Home: Waltham Terrace, Blackrock, 1847-9; Peafield, Blackrock, 1850; Pearmount, Rathgar, 1851-4; 3 Waltham Terrace, Blackrock, 1856-59.

See WORKS; see also CARMICHAEL & JONES.

References


(1) Royal Dublin Society Proceedings.
(2) DB 2, 1 Apr 1860, 232.
(3) Ann M. Stewart, The Royal Hibernian Academy of Arts: index of exhibitors and their works 1826-1979 I (1986), 120.
(4) Thom's Directories.
(5) Jones, citing ?Thom's Directory, 1843.
(6) RIAI General Meeting minutes, 17 Jan 1850, 67.
(7) RHA Exhibitors Index and Thom's Directories.


The surgeon - Hugh Richard Carmichael - was his uncle.

I have no idea where Caroline Wright came from or whether they got married in Ireland, let alone Dublin.  From Jamesina's "Reminiscences" they must have been
a reasonably well-off family - as she made pointed observations about the Irish obsession with maintaining appearances - even when the money'd run out.  This did not refer to her own family, but to some neighbours - who had the dining room
beautifully lit and the table laid with all its finery.  This was visible from the street, however, they drew the curtains before the meal was served as they actually ate in the kitchen, because they no longer had serving staff etc.  Shame - dignity before all else!

As all the Irish Census records, for the period that would have helped me, have been destroyed  - I'm not quite sure where to go from now.

Best regards

Tess

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Re: Wright Family? Maybe from Dublin?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 December 10 10:10 GMT (UK) »
Do you have details (dates, locations) on baptisms for any of their children ?




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Re: Wright Family? Maybe from Dublin?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 30 December 10 10:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Shane,

The only one I know of thus far is Jamesina's, which was on the 3rd March 1852, at St Nicholas Without, Dublin.

I will see if I can find any others on the 'net.

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Re: Wright Family? Maybe from Dublin?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 30 December 10 10:51 GMT (UK) »
I was thinking that tracing back the births of the children could lead back to the parish where they married....


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Re: Wright Family? Maybe from Dublin?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 13 July 15 20:11 BST (UK) »
Catherine Lucy Anne Carmichael born 21 Feb 1842 at 2 Harcourt St so the marriage would obviously predate this
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/50ecd80166468
Son Hugh born 1848 died 1849
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/5d06c50452987
going by the addresses you supplied earlier.

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Re: Wright Family? Maybe from Dublin?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 13 July 15 21:31 BST (UK) »
Says here that Hugh and Caroline married in 1840 where ?
and had a son called Frideswide Carmichael who died young
http://mikehaydock.com/p54.htm
might be a Wicklow connection
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/IRL-WICKLOW/2009-05/1243489944

they have Hugh's father as Andrew Blair Carmichael 1782 to 1822

marriage of a possible daughter Jane F 1865 Monkstown
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGDN-J5C


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Re: Wright Family? Maybe from Dublin?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 14 July 15 12:06 BST (UK) »
Remembering that this post is five years old...

Hugh CARMICHAEL and Caroline WRIGHT had three children that were baptised in Booterstown
Hugh 1848; Caroline 1850 and Florence Emily 1855

Hugh CARMICHAEL son of Andrew Blair CARMICHAEL was probably in 1818 born in Dublin- LINK

It looks as if Andrew Blair CARMICHAEL died in Dublin in 1821 rather than in India as the Haddock site suggests - LINK
Unless there was more than one man of the same name at that time

As it was previously stated that Hugh Richard CARMICHAEL, doctor, was the uncle of the Hugh being researched; his alumni 1824 record refers to him as the son of Andrew; born in Dublin and aged 17 on Feb 03 1807.

An Andrew Blair CARMICHAEL married a Jane SWIFT in 1825- LINK
This may be Hugh's brother? or cousin? as no father's name is given

Which means that a Jane CALDBECK could be considered as Hugh's mother -see 1801 marriage LINK
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