A place Vron Vriara

[JustLooking]

In 1861:

RG9/4285/45/3

and WR's find in 1861:

 RG9/1880/88/16

[JustLooking]

I think your's looks the best bet,  WR 

I looked through the census pages and it is the Fron that I mentioned in Penyclawdd- next set of houses are Wern which is up there.

So, I'd say they lived along Stryt y Veri 


JL

[powderpuff]

Wow, all this is great, more than I had hoped for.
The OS map is very interesting and certaintly in the area.
I had been frustrated not finding Samuel in the 1861 census as his birth place had thrown me a little but I'll look on the records you have found.

Thanks again, Happy New Year- well almost!
 

[JustLooking]

Blwyddyn Newydd Dda 

I think it is the Samuel that William found and he did have brothers who might be in my records so I'll check for them and for a possible marriage.

I've got to go do some festive cooking now but will be back later or early next year 


JL

[wrjones]

Well the Edward and Sarah could be interesting as Samuel and Elizabeth named their first two children Sarah and Edward.

Happy New Year.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[powderpuff]

Hi William and JL
I think this is the Samuel I am looking for and I would be very interested to know if some names in JL's  tree cross.

It really is remarkable how christian names pass on. Ironically, I'm a Sarah and my own eldest son's middle name is Edward, although all this information was unknown at the time. Samuel is my gggrandfather.

Blwyddyn Newydd Dda

[taidgazacaz]

Found "Fron Frien" on a c1870 OS map. It looks to me like an area, rather than an individual property.
Attached a section showing it (top left) in relation to Chirk. If you would like an enlargement of the area, or if it's not clear enough, let me know.

Tecwyn.

Deleted the map as I fear that I was breaching copyright. (02/01/2011)

[taidgazacaz]

On a modern map (OS256) it's precisely where Fron Isaf appears; just to the south of Froncysyllte.

Tecwyn.

[annun]

Hi powderpuff,there is a property in Froncysyllte a cottage called vron villiars,it is in the location of the old Quarry, regards Annun