A place Vron Vriara

[JustLooking]

Hello Tecwyn

It looks as if it's very close to where i linked my map.

Could you give me the ref please

I think the best thing now is for me to have a good look at my Chirk/Llangollen parish records 

JL

[taidgazacaz]

I'm not very good at map references, but try 273403.

If you look at Google maps, find Froncysyllte then scroll almost due south until you find a section of road, including a junction, that looks like a twisted letter "h" (lower case). In the sattellite view you'll see a cluster of buildings.

Hope this helps,
Tecwyn.

[JustLooking]

Hi Tecwyn

Thank you    but if you look at my earlier map ref, that's where I found it 


I think I'll just look at my parish records 



JL

[JustLooking]

Hello again

i've just been looking at my Chirk records and I've found all three of Samuel's pre-1845 siblings' baptisms ~


They are listed as living at Caegwinion/Caeaugwynion, located on the map here just to the south of the original Fron map point that I posted:


http://www.rootschat.com/links/0azy/


3 May 1840 Mary Anne d/o Edward Jones (limeman) and Sarah
29 May 1841 Sarah d/o Edward Jones (labourer) and Sarah
13 Oct 1844 Robert s/o Edward Jones (labourer) and Sarah

In 1851, (WR has given the ref) Sarah is aged 41 and b. Market Drayton, Shropshire (but other censuses have her as b. Chirk) and Edward is 49, b. Chirk.

I've not checked for them on the 1841 but, given their ages, they might have been there with earlier children.


JL

[JustLooking]

In 1841, they were still in Vron/Fron HO107/1399/4/16/15

With a 3 year old son, Thomas, and mary, as posted previously

Will look for Thomas's baptism 


JL

[JustLooking]

Will look for Thomas's baptism 


JL

Here we are:

3 December 1837  Thomas s/o Edward Jones (rockman) and Sarah. Abode - Fron 


JL

[JustLooking]

Have we got Samuel in 1871 because the one we've been looking at is still with his parents - RG10/2784/29/3  Now in New Buildings, Halton/Black Park, Chirk

(Sarah down as b, Market Drayton again!)

Just as an aside, I've noticed that one of the baptism entries has one of my big pencil marks against it so there might be a link. I'll have to check it out and get back.


JL

[wrjones]

From the birth of their first child c 1880 it was late 1870's when Samuel and Elizabeth married.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[JustLooking]

While trying to locate a rough time for their marriage, I found another baptism:

19 April 1835 William s/o Edward Jones (rockman) and Sarah of Fron

I don't see any earlier ones but neither do I see a marriage and, as Sarah was probably from Market Drayton originally, they could have married in a number of locations.

I think the best way of finding who she was is to obtain one of the children's birth certs.


JL