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Offline aghadowey

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Re: Robert Sherrard married Mary Buchanan
« Reply #9 on: Monday 09 March 15 10:09 GMT (UK) »
... I know there were Buchanans in another County called Maghabera(sic). Maybe they were related.  ...

No such county on Ireland but perhaps that's supposed to be another townland in the area?
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Re: Robert Sherrard married Mary Buchanan
« Reply #10 on: Monday 09 March 15 10:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
   There are two townlands in the Dungiven area called Magheramore and Magheraboy. Some distant Buchanan relatives of mine lived in Magheramore. This would be about 8 miles from Slaughtmanus.

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Re: Robert Sherrard married Mary Buchanan
« Reply #11 on: Monday 09 March 15 10:26 GMT (UK) »
Matilda Sherrard (c1881/c1875 Ireland) m.1 (10 Apr.1901 Jefferson Co., Ohio) John Carlson (c1874 Guttenberg, Sweden) m.2 (8 June 1911 Mingo, Jefferson, Ohio) George Young

John Carlson, machinist, died 9 Feb.1904- cause of death ‘accidental’
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F6JZ-ZZF

Son Robert John Carlson (12 Mar.1901-17 Oct.1911 Mingo: spasmodic croup & oedema of glottis) buried Oakland Cemetery
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X84P-F43

In 1910 census Matilda and son are living in Steubenville, Jefferson Co. with George Young as boarder (they marry the following year). Note: Steubenville just north of Mingo Junction
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLNR-DHB

Interestingly there’s a Matilda Carlson born N.I. in 1930 census for Mingo-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4WG-LK5
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Re: Robert Sherrard married Mary Buchanan
« Reply #12 on: Monday 09 March 15 10:51 GMT (UK) »
1900 census Matilda is staying in household of James Brown- cousin?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMD7-JCZ

James died in 1914- parents Dennis Brown & Elizabeth Buchanan
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X8X2-KVW

Robert J. Brown (1859 Pennsylvania-1941 Ohio)- same parents
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X8SV-KWD

Dennis Brown & Elizabeth Buchanan married 1852 Ireland- but her farher listed as John not William
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG6X-FR6
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Re: Robert Sherrard married Mary Buchanan
« Reply #13 on: Monday 09 March 15 11:05 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth Brown, widow, with son James Brown in 1910 (along with another son, Edwin born New Jersey)-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLNT-8FV

Edwin Brown with borther Robert J. in 1930-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4WL-L4C

Edwin Brown with nephew Edwin in 1940-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KWFC-4SQ

Elizabeth Brown & 4 sons in 1870 (no husband listed)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M6KG-CDX
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Re: Robert Sherrard married Mary Buchanan
« Reply #14 on: Monday 09 March 15 11:53 GMT (UK) »
Dennis & Elizabeth Brown with 2 sons (Robert J. & William J.) and a daughter (Matilda J.) in 1860-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MFCQ-ZLW
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Re: Robert Sherrard married Mary Buchanan
« Reply #15 on: Monday 09 March 15 22:54 GMT (UK) »
I believe I confused Jane Sherrard [Buchanan] with a Mary Jane Sherrard who was also married to a farmer named Robert Sherrard and was of a similar age when both were recorded living in the same area in the 1901 census. Indeed, your post pointed me in the right direction to see their two grand children.  The elder members of my family were aware of the Donnell’s but did not recall the two grand children recorded in the census.
The Landaire mentioned as the birth of William Buchanan I would have to agree is probably Londonderry. Landaire I suspect is a phonetic of the loose pronunciation of the time.
I’m afraid I suspect that Jane's daughter Mary-Jane did not marry James Cairns however. Both Robert Sherrard and his brother, Matthew had a son and a daughter named Robert and Mary-Jane. Mary-Jane did indeed marry James Cairns at Carlisle Road Church on May 26th 1891. The father on the certificate however is Matthew, not Robert, which confirms that it was Mary-Jane of 1865’s cousin. Alas I have a hunch that Mary-Jane of 1865 was one of the three children Robert states was dead in the 1911 census.  Mary-Jane of 1865’s brother was however the Robert who married Elizabeth Torrens, although I suspect his cousin Mary-Jane lived with her own brother Robert [all very confusing]. Robert and Elizabeth were my great grandparents. Robert lived into his 90s and my father was a child when a huge Sherrard family reunion was held in 1951 to celebrate his birthday. There was a large family photo taken at the time which was sadly was mislaid only four or five years ago.
Unfortunately I haven’t taken the Buchanans any further back than Jane’s father, William. Indeed I did not know her mother’s name until your post.
Curious that the Donnells appear in the 1911 census to confirm that their two eldest children went to live with their grand parents while the next five stay with them. They are nowhere to be found in the 1901 census despite all the children being apparently born in County Derry.
While the info from Aghadowey is very good, I can advise that the Robert Sherrard whose death he reports in 1930 is not the same man as the associated 1911 census link. The man in the 1911 link is my gt grandfather who, mentioned previously died in 1952 and whose birthday in 1951 was attended by my father.
There’s lots of other links that I haven’t had a chance to look at yet. I’m Robert Sherrard and Jane Buchanan’s great great grandson, via the Robert Sherrard shown in that 1911 census link, which also shows my grandmother, Rebecca Sherrard. The youngest girl Wilhelmina {Mina} my great aunt, was the second oldest woman in Ireland when she passed away in December. I’d be keen to see photos of my gt gt grandmother’s brothers and also to see if the communication between the families in the USA and Australia included any contact or mention of the family back in Ireland/Northern Ireland. 

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Re: Robert Sherrard married Mary Buchanan
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 10 March 15 00:07 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much to kingskerswell and captainbeecher for all you information, and to aghadowey.  Yes, you are correct!  The place where the other Buchanans lived was Maghabera.  You must understand that I do not come from Ireland. It may well be that my Buchanans are related to yours, as these Buchanas also used the name William.

James Buchanan came to Australia on 1 July 1853 on the 'Ghengis Khan' with his wife Catherine and their son William James. They settled in Waterloo; five miles from Beaufort.  In the mid-1860s, Catherine left James and went to live with his brother William Buchanan.  William had come to Australia a couple of years later and married a lady from Manchester named Matilda Walton.  William James Buchanan died in a mining accident near Stawell in 1899. He moved from Beaufort to Stawell in the late 1870s, after his father had remarried.  He was a popular man in Stawell, but never married.

Catherine Buchanan died in Beaufort around 1874.  In 1876, James married a young lady named Mary McGuire who was 17 and hose mother was a Convict from Londonderry - Anne Agnew. Anne had been transported in 1841 at age 14 for stealing a loaf of bread!  Her father was John Agnew and mother unknown.  Mary's father was John McGuire from Manchester. James Buchanan was about 48 and put his age down to 38 on the marriage certificate!!  I am the GG Granddaughter of James and Mary Buchanan. 

James worked as a Carrier (goods etc), with cattle, and as a Blacksmith. He was what I would call a crusty old curmudgeon.   He did have some minor incursions with the Victorian Police.  He had a big argument with a man on the streets of Stawell in 1903 and they both went to Court.  The Judge fined James quite a bit of money.  He liked to dress well and always had a walking stick with him as a fashion item.   He always spoke his mind and didn't have much respect for authority. James and Mary had the following children:
 Nancy Jane, Robert, John (died young), Mary, Herbert, Augusta.  I will get the DOB and post these soon. Robert was my GGrandfather.

James died in April, 1915 in Stawell, and William died in 1922/23 in Beaufort.  I will post the exact dates when I look through what I have.

Now to the contact from Ireland and or America.  I had been told by one of my senior cousins that a letter was sent from Scotland to Australia in the late 1950s by one of the Buchanans.  I have been asked to try and find out who sent the letter.  I honestly don't think that this letter came from Scotland, as this dear cousin hadn't at all known that the Buchanans came from Londonderry.   The fact is that James' son Robert Buchanan never told anyone about the Buchanans.  The family were a complete mystery, although I knew that James had come from Londonderry, not Scotland.  I cannot find his birth certificate in Ireland. It is a better bet that the letter came from Jane's family in Ireland.  Whoever wrote that letter knew my grandfather's name. My grandfather was James' grandson. The contact had continued with the Buchanan relatives for over 100 years.  Unfortunately, the letter was never answered by any relative in Australia. 

It is much less likely that the letter came from Mingo in America, as sister Elizabeth Brown (Buchanan) wrote in 1894 to the Victorian Police asking for the whereabouts of her brothers James, William and Robert who had come to Victoria about 30-40 years ago.  This is the letter I have ordered and will post on this site as soon as it arrives. This will arrive in about two-three weeks.

Last week my most senior cousin who is 90 said that she knew the family came from Londonderry, and that she knew that 'half of James Buchanans siblings had gone to America, and the other half had come to Australia'.  Their parents William and Mary Buchanan (nee Norris) may have had more children, but I do not know who they are. Perhaps more stayed in Londonderry.  My cousin's recollection may not be entirely correct as to the number of siblings who went to America. 

I also do remember one of the Sherrard's immigrating to New York.   I have an idea that it was Robert Sherrard's brother, but I am uncertain.

So, yes, captainbeecher, you are certainly a cousin!  The longevity of your GGrandfather would definitely be assisted by the Buchanan line.  It would be very rare for a Buchanan to die before the age of 80.  Robert and James as names have always remained in the family, as has Elizabeth.   The Buchanans over here were staunchly Presbyterian and quite fanatic about it in the previous generations.  None of them were tall people, and the women were quite 'fey'. I will look up some more information and post it.  Will attach photos in a minute.
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Re: Robert Sherrard married Mary Buchanan
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 10 March 15 00:07 GMT (UK) »
Here are some photos.  Had trouble attaching them in the last post.