Possible Emigration from Devon to Canada

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Mabel Bale - daughter of Thomas and Ellen was born  7 Jun 1879 in Hamilton, Wentworth County, Ontario, Canadaand died 14 Dec 1929 in Hamilton, Wentworth County, Ontario. Married to Lorne Victor Johnson born 1879

Mabel, husband and daughter were living with father Thomas, brother Fred and sister Emma at 217 Victoria. Ward 7 Hamilton East

Thomas Bak 56 Born April 1855  England. Traveller
Fred Bak 44 Born Dec 1866. Plater
Emma Bak 41 Born Nov 1869
Lome Johnston 31 Born  Sep 1909 in Hamilton, Wentworth County, Ontario. Occupation:-  Plater
Mabel Johnston 32 Born June 1878 
Lorna Johnston 1
 
 

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Mabel married Lorne 14 June 1906 Wentworth. Lorne the son of Benj F Johnstone and  Hannah M Will Johnstone. The spelling of the surname slightly different to the 1911 Census.  Lorne was described as a Commercial traveller, Bachelor, Congregationist.

Emma Bale died Wentworth County 20 th December 1935. Geo S Bale was the informant. George living at 15 Redpath XXXXX  Cause of death was Cerebral Haemorrhage/ Arterio Sclerosis/Arterial Hyper tension. Place of burial Hamilton Cemetery.

Mabel was Mabel Eva Johnstone died in MT. Hamilton Hospital. At the time the family were living at 141 Alpine Avenue. Lorne was the informant. Cause of death was Septicaemia (causd by small boil on face) Burial was 16 Dec 1929

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I can see a Joseph Bale listed on a New York Passenger List born 1815 - Aged 22 years - Occupation Mason. Port of depoarture was Bideford arrving New York 31 May 1836 on the ship Lord Ramsey.

Utah Cemetery Inventory  has a Joseph Bale. Born about 1814 England
Died 27 March 1890 Salt Lake City Utah
Burial was 27 th March 1890 Salt Lake City Cemetery - Grave Location: L-18-12-4-4

and Salt Lake City Cemetery Records show = Joseph Bale  1814 England
Died 27 Mar 1890 : Salt Lake City, Utah  -  Plot: 15751 L-18-12-4-4   - Burial Date: 27 Mar 1890

[*Sandra*]

Think that is the right connection - can see more detail on the link below:-

Birth:  Nov. 18, 1814 Derbyshire, England    (should be Devonshire)
Death:  Mar. 27, 1890 Salt Lake City Salt Lake County Utah.

Son of Joseph Bale and Prudence Curtis.  Married Anna Bibbins Chaffee, 27 Feb 1857, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bdg/

Anna Bibbins Chaffee Bale (1811 - 1881)  - Daughter of Amos Chaffee and Harmony Crary. Married Elijah Fordham, 3 Oct 1838, Ashford, Windham, Connecticut.  Children: Amos Pierre Fordham, Lydia Lovonia Fordham.
Married Joseph Bale, 27 Feb 1857, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bdh/

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Joseph Bale is listed in 13th Ward Gsl City. Salt Lake City in 1856 and Salt Lake City 3rd Ward in 1859

This looks like him mistranscribed  St George, Washington, Utah Territory in 1870 (It is Bale on the image)

Joseph Ball 58 Born England. Brick Mason. Value Of Real Estate $599 Value of Personal Estate $100
Annie Ball 59 Born Connecticut.
 

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We are having a disorganised day but your hard work is cheering us greatly
Did you notice the top of the census 1901  for Thomas Bale and Ellen the enumerator was George Sidney Bale ? He was the teacher you found wasn't he
Gosh the bones are being well fleshed now
Can't thank you enough
H.

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Oh dear another strange problem  I have 2 Mary Beers both marying Bales and both ending up in Ontario
1.Mary BEER born  Bideford 1815 married William BALE her last child Edward was born 1852 in born 1852 he died in Aldborough, Elgin, Ontario in 1924 giving his mother as Mary BEER
2. Mary BEER born 1816 in Bideford 1816 married James BALE
now we think she was daughter of James Beer and Mary Cullis and her sister Elizabeth(SWEET) married her widower

Can we be sure that the right Bale is married to the right Mary BEER and that James married sisters?

What a strange situation I need to ask on the Devon board if anyone can acess the Bideford records  to find their baptisms

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1861 in Brighton, Northumberland, Canada West - this would make William born 1816  Fairy Cross, Alwington, Devon and died 1894 in West Lorne, Ontario.  Mary died 1858
William remarried Sarah Emily Bull in 1865 and they had 3 children. :- Ethelda 1866 - 1936  Mary Elizabeth 1866 - 1910 Stephen Bale 1871 - 1902

William Bale aged 45 years. Church of England. Farmer
Mary Bale Aged 48 years  Church of England
Susan Yeomans Aged 16 years Born NC
Richard  Aged 17 years.  Labourer.   Born Eng
John  Aged 15 years 'Labourer.   Born Eng
William  Aged 12 years' Labourer.   Born Eng
Edward   Aged 8 years' Labourer. Born NC

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good so his Mary BEER  was born nearer 1813 while Jame's Mary BEER is the one born nearer 1816 now all I need is the two baptisms to be sure still trying to add in yesterdays great data 
H.