lawrence crawford b-1851 monaghan

[briann1]

Hi i am trying to gain any info on Lawrence Crawford b-1851 in ireland i do not know which county.
According to his marriage in sunderland Durham in 1880 his fathers name was Anthony
1n 1881census he is living in sunderland with his new wife Kathrine but also his brother James Crawford b-1862 ireland. I have all his info of his life and family in sunderland but nothing of his life in ireland(mother, his actual birth, and other siblings) can anyone help, any info would be appreciated as i have been drawing blanks
regards briann

[shanew147]

For details before the start of full civil registration (1864) you really need to know a location (ideally the parish), and the family religion.

see :

  Introduction to Irish Records
  My Ancestor came from Ireland - where do I start?

Do you have Anthony's occupation from the marriage cert ?


Shane

[briann1]

hi shane i got anthonys name from the church records of the marriage on the l.d.s beta site have not yet sent for certificate.
I have looked at a number of on-line sites including the ones metioned no luck

[shanew147]

The later English census returns, especially 1911, often give a more detailed place of birth (county or even a town sometimes), so worth following up on those.

The occupation for Anthony might help if he has a specific trade or professional type occupation as these can sometimes be traced using directories etc, of course many of the people who moved from Ireland were labourers and small farmers and these would not be listed in most directories.


Shane

[briann1]

Lawrence died 1902 all prior census just state ireland 1881-1901.Both Lawrence and his brother James were road workers in England but dont know about father Anthony.I dont think Anthony came to England because James was alodger with his brother Lawrence 

[briann1]

from the sunderland 1901 census i now believe james and lawrence could have been born in monaghan.    In 1901 james was living with wife mary
briann

[briann1]

Hi all I now know that Lawrence and James crawford had another brother called Andrew born 1845 in co monaghan, and their father was also called Andrew b- about 1822 in co monaghan he was a stonemason, i do not know the mother of the three brothers.      Andrew b-1845 married Margaret Gologlly? around 1880 but not sure whether in ireland or sunderland england
briann

[hallmark]

You still haven't given his religion....

"For details before the start of full civil registration (1864) you really need to know a location (ideally the parish), and the family religion."....

[briann1]

hi hallmark they were catholics and i believe from castleblayney
lawrence abt 1850, james abt 1862,andrew abt 1845 and father andrew abt 1822