Ladykirk Farm 1851

[Violetta]

Help!  New to all this research1  looking for help re George Smith and family .  All found in 1851 census.  Lost track of them after that e.g. couldn't find in later censuses.  Particular interest in son John. Can.t find anything re George and family in parish records.  George was owner of the farm in Ladykirk (800 acres in 1851.) His grandson was my grandfather who married and lived in Norham.  This geneology is quite addictive and so interesting!

[CaroleW]

Hi and welcome to Rootschat

With a surname like Smith - we need all the help we can get.  We always need birthplaces and birthyears to help us find people on censuses

You haven't given any details as to when and where George was born or any details of his wife and children

Can you post FULL detail of the family from the 1851 census

[Gadget]

Hi and welcome from me also 

My searches for Ladykirk Farm suggest that it was in Berwick upon Tweed which is in Northumberland rather than Berwickshire. Is there another farm by that name in Berwickshire?

The parish of Ladykirk is in Berwickshire though 

As Carole says, the more information that you can give, the better.

Regards


Gadget


added - just found on the OS map an 'Old Ladykirk Farm Steading' just north of Ladykirk - maybe that's it

[Gadget]

They  are in Ladykirk, Berwickshire on the 1851:

Ladykirk ED 2 Page  1 

George, aged 40, is down as being b. in England , as was his wife, Grace.


Have you checked for marriages in England?


Gadget

[Violetta]

Thanks for such quick replies.  Ladykirk is not in Berwick on Tweed.  To my knowledge it is in Scotland.  I will check this.Re Census George 40 in 1851 so born 1811? He was married to Grace Ann 39 at census.  Both these born in England.  Children including stepdaughter of George all born in Scotland.  Names are :George 11 yrs, James W 9 yrs, John (my great grandfather) 7yrs, Mary W 3yrs,Christian (girl) 2yrs,Robert 3months.  Step daughter Helen Young (do,t know if wife widow before marriage) age 17 yrs.  I found reference to Grace and son George  in 1841 census.  Found Helen young too but she was in Coldingham at the time the census was taken.

[Gadget]

Hi 

Think our last messages crossed.

Have you checked for George and Grace's marriage in England  as that is where they say they were born?


Gadget

[Violetta]

No. Wasn't sure how to go about it as didn.t know date.  i could make qualified guess at this .
Thanks

[Gadget]

As you say - they seem to disappear after 1851. No deaths showing on Scotlands People for them and I don't see them in England either 

Eyes are a bit sore at the moment but will do some more searches tomorrow  .

Gadget

[CaroleW]

These are the full 1851 details - all children were b Ladykirk - including stepdaughter Helen Young so it looks as though they married in Berwick and that Grace was nee Young.  ither Grace had been married previously or Helen was illegitimate

George Smith 40  farmer b England
Grace Ann 39 b England 
George   11 
James W   9 
John   7 
Mary W   3 
Christean 2 
Robert   3 Months
Helen Young 17  step daughter b Ladykirk

The following were all servants
Mary Haswell 38 
Jessie Laidler 21 
Ann Brown 19 
George Thomson 22 
John Leitch 73 
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