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Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 25 July 09 02:31 BST (UK) »
1871 Census

Farm House, Ancroft, Northumberland
RG10/5180/7/ 8

Smith
James, W, 29,farmer, b. Scotland
Grace A, mother,wid,  59, b. Norham
Christian, sister21, b. Scotland
John, brother, 17, b. Northumberland, Loanend
Angnes Mackie, cousin, 32, b.Bamburgh
Eleanora Tait, 21, general servant, b. Berrington
Margaret Forsythe, 26, -do-, b. Ford Hill


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Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 25 July 09 02:37 BST (UK) »
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1861 Census

17 Ancroft, Northumberland
RG9/3884/65/ 4

Smith
George, 50, farmer of 1080acres, b. Noham
Grace A, 49, b. Norham
George, 21,caol runner, b. Scotland,  Note - Coal Owner!
James W, 19, solicitors clerk, b.Scotland
Christian, 12, b. Scotland
Robert, 10, b. Norham
John, 7, b. Norham
plus  6 staff and servants


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Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 25 July 09 02:46 BST (UK) »
I didn't see a birth/baptism for George Smith in Norham but you might want to look through the images of the Bishops Transcripts for Norham here:

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c=1309819;t=browsable;w=0

It's not indexed so it means a thorough search.


Note that Norham was a parish of Durham in those days, although in present day Northumberland .


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Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 25 July 09 02:49 BST (UK) »
George Smith and Grace Ann Young married, Norham, 19th March 1839

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Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 25 July 09 03:00 BST (UK) »
Thankyou so much.  Re Ancroft what was George juniors profession - didn.t understand that and also John was aged 7 in the 1851 census too.

John married Anne patterson approx born Allanton Scotland 1863.  Scandal as she was working in the Mason's arms Norham and pregnaant with my grandfather George.John was virtually cut off from his family as a result and hence we know so little about the Smiths .

I presume George Senior died between 1851 1nd 61.

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Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 25 July 09 03:12 BST (UK) »
The marriage cert for George Smith and Grace Ann Young is:

March q, 1839, Berwick vol 25 page 7. This would give George's father's name and occupation

Occupation of George is coal runner. I got the o and a transposed (laptop and fingers). I'm not sure what it is.

I'll check again on John but this is definitely the same family as on the 1851.


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Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 25 July 09 03:12 BST (UK) »
My mistake George was still alive 1861.

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Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 25 July 09 03:17 BST (UK) »
My poor English.  Anne patterson born 1863! 

John Smith living at Birch Hill Norham  age 39 born 1852 living with widow his sister Christian Nicholson.  the  Nicholson sounds familiar Could this be Georges brother?

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Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 25 July 09 03:18 BST (UK) »
John is definitely son, aged 7 in 1861 and brother, aged 17 in 1871

Could the first one have died?

Do you have his marriage cert to say his father was George Smith, farmer?

I'll see if I can find the death entry for George.


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Christian would be his sister b.c. 1849, Ladykirk
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