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Where did Helen Beattie die? marr John Wilson
« on: Monday 17 January 11 08:48 GMT (UK) »
Helen Beattie b 1813 ish daughter of William Beattie and Isabella Kennedy
her father farmed at Brawliemuir , Benholm

She married John Wilson a farmer at Craighead, Beholm
9 Jan 1841 at Benholm.

From an A & NE FHS memorial Listing for Dunnottar Churchyard (old Section)
 Erected by Helen BEATTIE in memory of her husband John WILSON late
of Crossgates, Dunnottar d. 29 Feb 1864 aged 63;
his son Jonathan d. 6 Sept. 1853 aged 12;
said Helen BEATTIE d. 4 Aug 1898 aged 85."

I show both John & Helen at Crossgates 1861 Census.

1871, 1881,1891 Helen is in Stonehaven at King St or High Street
mostly with her Iligit Grandaughter  Isabella Myers Wilson b 1872
daughter of Mary Ann Wilson.

I have John's death record from SP but cannot get Sp to
cough up Helens death record.

Can any one assist?
a) with a death place or obit? confirming the 1898 demise.
b) a photo of the headstone it it is still there.
         

Thanking you all in anticipation.           
Watt, Beattie,Glass,McDougal, Guthrie,Blackie,Pringle,Balmer,Headridge,Hunter,France,Greenhill
Gordon,Lawson,Anderson,Reid,Stott,Milne,Jackson,Walker McArthur,Hardie.Dunnet,Dundas
Thorburn, Mosley, Stewart, Wood, Gladstone, Darrie,Melrose
Duff,and in the States/Canada: Kidder,Duff, Blake,Robertson,Kerr.

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Re: Where did Helen Beattie die? marr John Wilson
« Reply #1 on: Monday 17 January 11 13:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi Angusg

I did a search ot scotlandspeople Surname Wilson, forename helen other name beattie
search all areas year 1898 there is one result

1898 WILSON HELEN   BEATTIE F 70 MONTROSE /ANGUS 312/00 0218

yours aye
BruceL

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Re: Where did Helen Beattie die? marr John Wilson
« Reply #2 on: Monday 17 January 11 14:57 GMT (UK) »
hi all  :)

deceased online has -
helen beattie died 4th aug. 1898 , buried 8th aug. 1898 sleepyhillock(angus)
sleepyhillock cemetery is by montrose

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Re: Where did Helen Beattie die? marr John Wilson
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 January 11 20:14 GMT (UK) »
Thank you to both for the info
that has led me to find her death in August  4th 1898
at 20 Victoria Street, Montrose.

She was living with her Widowed daughter Jane Wilson
married in 1866 on 13 of July at Co town of Gallonton, Dunnottar
to William Falconer a Railway Porter from Montrose born Kinneff. age 27

Jane Wilson died 1914 June 9 th at 28 Mill Street, Montrose
informant was son John Falconer living at 56 King Street, Montrose

her husband William Falconer died at Aberdeen Usual residence 20 Victoria Street,
Montrose. 17 may 1897 he is recorded by his widow as a bill poster.

Census suggest that William was born at Kinneff his father was James Falconer a farmer
 his mother Jane Milne.

William and Jane had four children
James born 1868 Bervie
                   1895 married Jessie Johnston of 5 Castle Place, Montrose
                    in census 1891  1901 he was a Draper Employer
                      living at Wharf Street
                               they had a daughter Jessie J b 1896
                    d ?
Jane Ann b 1870 Benholm likely Johnshaven
               m George McKenzie a Joiner  Nov 1899
               d ?
in 1901 Census the couple and their daughter Helen B 1901,were living at Inverkip Renfrewshire
                  Jane Falconer was also there listed as Mother in law, baby was 3 mos old so made sense.


John  b 1874 Johnshaven (Benholm)
          m 12 Dec 1898 Janet McARTHUR Greig
                    father Robert Butters Greig a wood carver
                    mother Janet McARTHUR
     he also married  Catherine Marr Melville who died 28 Apr 1945
in Census John was a grocer  there was also a daur Doroth V Faconer born 1900

John likely died 1950 buried Sleephillock same as Catherine Melville.

  Helen b  1877 to 1899 Montrose   
            m 22 June 1911 at Queens Hotel Montrose James Taylor a gas fitter
            d 15 or 16 December at 107 High Street   informant was son  John F Taylor.
I did not fine Helen in the 1901 census not with brothers or sister.

Thanks again, Ev if you would like the marriage record for John & Janet Greig send me a PM

The reason I did not find Helen Wilsons death was she was recorded as 70 she was actually 85.
I could not find William Falconers death in 1897 a) he was indexed as Willia not William (I was using exact name)
                                                                            b) he died Aberdeen not Montrose
This has cost me quite a few credits at SP to learn that.
Watt, Beattie,Glass,McDougal, Guthrie,Blackie,Pringle,Balmer,Headridge,Hunter,France,Greenhill
Gordon,Lawson,Anderson,Reid,Stott,Milne,Jackson,Walker McArthur,Hardie.Dunnet,Dundas
Thorburn, Mosley, Stewart, Wood, Gladstone, Darrie,Melrose
Duff,and in the States/Canada: Kidder,Duff, Blake,Robertson,Kerr.


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Re: Where did Helen Beattie die? marr John Wilson
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 January 11 20:58 GMT (UK) »
 :)

well done BruceL  :)

and thank you angusg for your follow up  :)
not every one gives such detailed info.

result  :)

ev



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Re: Where did Helen Beattie die? marr John Wilson
« Reply #5 on: Friday 28 January 11 21:14 GMT (UK) »
angusg  :)

if you would like any help searching SP  :-\
yes , some of mine have been 10 years out

as aways free of charge  :)

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Re: Where did Helen Beattie die? marr John Wilson
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 15 March 11 18:43 GMT (UK) »
 Belated reply Ev,

Thanks for the offer. I approached SP for a refund
of the credits it cost me because of the Miss indexing
they were very accomadating.

It seem lately I have been having a lot of issues
especially with census finding people. Eventually
by using a child I find the whole family, but no luck
with the father & mother.  Strange.

Would you like the SP record with the McARTHUR connection?
I have not tried to connect it to the Jonathan BEATTIE/ Jemima McARTHUR family from
Benholm.
Watt, Beattie,Glass,McDougal, Guthrie,Blackie,Pringle,Balmer,Headridge,Hunter,France,Greenhill
Gordon,Lawson,Anderson,Reid,Stott,Milne,Jackson,Walker McArthur,Hardie.Dunnet,Dundas
Thorburn, Mosley, Stewart, Wood, Gladstone, Darrie,Melrose
Duff,and in the States/Canada: Kidder,Duff, Blake,Robertson,Kerr.

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Re: Where did Helen Beattie die? marr John Wilson
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 15 March 11 19:09 GMT (UK) »
angusg  :)

yes please , i'll look at some point for a connection

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