MAYNARD, Poplar - Greenwich

[Foad Family Kent]

Whilst looking at the family of my Aunts husband
John A Maynard 1922 - 2006 I found his mothers maiden name to be Breach. Ada Agnes born 1886.
What confused me was Ada's marriage to John Thomas Maynard in 1918, she is also recorded as having the surname Maynard rather than Breach. This led me to find she married first to the below Albert Charles maynard born c.1889 by the cert. He died 1915 on HMS Natal in the Firth.

By assumption I think possibly John Thomas Maynard who Ada married in 1918, was brother to Albert Charles Maynard who she emarried to in 1913.

Sadly, I cannot find either Richard, Albert of John on the census, not knowing where they came from or any dates other than Albert saying he is 24 on his 1913 marriage.

Marriage Certificate
Marriage solemized at Christ Church, Greenwich, 25th Dec 1913.
Albert Charles Maynard 24, Bachelor, Leading Stoker, HMS Natal, son of Richard a Toolsmith, Deceased.
Ada Agnes Breach, aged 27, Spinster, of 64 Blackwall Lane, daughter of George Breach, Fishmonger. Witnessed by Elizabeth Salmon Catell? and Leslie Mark Hill.




Lastly, John Albert Maynard 1922 above, had a sister Dorothy M Maynard born Bromley 1921. She was said to die in 1942 while her brother was away at war. Though I do not know if she was married  but cannot find a 1942 death for a Dorothy Maynard.
John 1922 and Dorothy, were said to be orphaned at a young age, Ada Agnes Maynard, nee Breach certainly died 1927 in Greenwich. But again, I have no dates for John Thomas above.



I wonder, if at least, someone could help me find the possible brothers on the 1891 and 1901 census?

[lizdb]

It would be worth getting the marriage cert for John Thomas Maynard to Ada, to see if a) she is a widow b) if her father is George breach and c) If John T's father is Richard the toollsmith

[softly softly]

Hi,
A Dorothy M Maynard died aged 21 ref sept q 1942 Greenwich 1d 534.

John

[Foad Family Kent]

Liz, I feel I will be able to find them on the census first, having just bought John Maynard 1922's birth cert plus the 1913 marriage.

John, excellent, thank you, it would tie in with her death date of 21 Jul 1942

[lizdb]

Liz, I feel I will be able to find them on the census first, having just bought John Maynard 1922's birth cert plus the 1913 marriage.

Ideally, yes.
I cant see either of them, either as brothers or not, nor Richard in earlier censuses as a toolsmith.
And yuo have searched too.
And I am sure others have.

The marriage cert would at least prove if they were borthers, and if not give an alternative Dads name for John to help us search.
I know the cost soon mounts up, and it is easy to spend other peoples money!!!!  But it did just seem a quick and easy way to solve the situation when the census search seems to be failing.

[lizdb]

There isnt a birth for an ALbert Chalres Maynard in 1889

I wonder if he is the one
Jan/Feb/Mar 1892
Greenwich

that would make him 3 years younger, but maybe he adjusted his age a little for his marriage as he was marrying an older woman?

[lizdb]

And there is a birth for a John Thomas Maynard in Greenwich in April /May/Jun1889

Gives us a bit of a clue about dates and area to work on, even if onyl to rule either/both of these births out.

[Foad Family Kent]

Guessing Richard the father would have to be born 1855, 10 years either side by possible son Alberts birth in 1889.........

I just found a Richard Maynard aged 42 born Bromley a 'Hammerman' in Poplar and Stepney Asylum. He is a Patient and recorded a Married.

Off to see if I can find this one any earlier or a pre 1913 death?

[lizdb]

Eureka! (well maybe)

1891
RG12 513 38 72

there is a Maynard family living in Greenwich
head is Richard, a blacksmith

lots of children incl 2 yr old John

I reckon thats the family (with Alfred being bn the following year and thus missing 1891)

off to check out 1901 quick

should be doing something else!