borthwick /haswell marriage

[ann31]

Hi Beckey
                thanks  ill get on to it i know one of the people on Genes Reunited is my 2nd cousin  having as much luck as me i think!! but i will look at the other one my mum seems to think there is a link to Edinburgh but young Isabella 1861 was estranged from her family that's why we know so little about them
           Ann

[Beckey]

Hi Ann,

Have had a response from Barbara Pestell and explained what is required will wait response.

Did you find them on the "Familysearch" 1881 census as I can't.

Barry

[ann31]

Hi Beckey
                No i found them on ancestry i only found the christenings on familysearch i looked on Genes Reunited my dads a member researching his side and my 2nd cousin isn't one of the members researching ( she must have given up the ghost!) so this could be promising fingers crossed thanks again for your help
                                Ann

[Beckey]

hi Ann,

Response from Barbara Pestell,

In the 1851 census there is a Elizabeth Haswell, widow age 67, she is James's mother and his father was also a James.
 James Haswell married Elizabeth Jordan 3/3/1803 at Berwick.

No marriage found for James and Isabella ( though she has looked as well),
thinks that Isabella is daughter of James Borthwick & Elizabeth Gordon.

1881 age 56 living Chapel St., also in 1891 at 21 Chapel St., as Elizabeth,
James died 4/4/1896 & Isabella 23/6/1901.

She would like to know where you fit in the family please.

Hope this gives you a better start.

Barry

[ann31]

Hi Beckey
                this sounds promising is Barbera a member of rootschat   ?
my gg grandmother was Isabella Haswell b 1861  daughter of James and Isabella she married  William Henry eccles from Sheffield as far as i know she married in Berwick Upon Tweed in 1883 and moved to Sheffield they had 3 children that i know of William ,George and Sabina my grandmother hope this helps
                                                                                                                                               Ann

[Beckey]

Hi Ann,

Looking at the ages of them both in the census details they could have both been under age, with Elizabeth being born in about August 42.

The nearest place would have been at Lamberton Toll just over the border on the Eyemouth Road, favourite place for irregular marriages, but I don't know what kind of record there is there.

Barry.

Have made contact with Cherry Pearson and have e-mail, can only send by personel mail.

[ann31]

Hi Beckey
                 Thankyou so much for your help Ive got further these last few days than i have in the past year and its all down to you and all the other roots chatters i wish i had found this site before now everyone is so helpful i think i will subscribe to Genes Reunited  thanks again will let you know how i get on
              Ann 

[Beckey]

Hi Ann,

Sent you a personal message, can't send e-mail any other way.

Click on Beckey top left hand of message and it will open personal details where you can send a message, try it and there is one waiting, you should have got one to say there is a message waiting.

Barry

[ann31]

Hi Beckey 
                did what you said cant find pm anywhere   haven't got anything to say theres a message waiting
                   Ann