Rule/Anderson families

[sancti]

And George in 1881

Ann Hart 46
Emma Hart 20
George Rule 35 Lodger, born: Lanarkshire, Scotland occ Fitter
Edward Lewis Cook 15

Address: 2 Garrison Lane 2 CT 8 House, Aston Warwickshire

[PRBaker]

This is family! Elsie must be Mary Anne daughter. Her husband Austin died at 40. If so she was Norman's mother.

Check photo of Anne & Philip attached. The photo is labeled wrong should be "Anne Guest". Philip's granddaughter, Doris, had the photo unlabeled except for grandmother & Philip. Her niece gave me this photo when I located her in NH.

Pete

PS: you are unbelieveable for which I am thankful!

1891 census

Anne Drewery 72
Marian Drewery 34
Philip Rule 10 grandson  born: Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, England
Elsie Rose Dixon 1 Granddaughter


Kingswinford
 Wordsley
 Staffordshire

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John,

This looks like Jame's brother John. The age is right plus his wife was "Harriet a name that I have come across.

Possible record for James' brother John Rule in 1881

John Rule 37  born: Scotland occ Engine fitter
Harriet Rule 35  born: Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England
Emma Rule 10
William Rule 8
Agnes Rule 6
Mary Rule   

Address: Cresset Lane Kingswinford Staffordshire

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John and family 1891

John Rule 46 born: Glasgow, Scotland occ Engine fitter
Harriett Rule 46
Agnes Rule 16
Arthur Simms 1 Grandson born: Crewe, Cheshire, England
Elizabeth Baurne 39 Lodger
Henry Hall 18  Lodger
Henry Baurne 14 Lodger

Address Dudley St John Worcestershire

[PRBaker]

John,

I hope that you are having a good time with all this info that you are feeding me. I know I am.

I appreciate your efforts beyond words. THANKS

Be Healthy! Be Happy!

best regards,

Pete

[sancti]

No problem Pete, it's keeping me out of the pub and the wife is delighted 

This might be James in 1901

Name: James Rule
Age: 57
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Sedgley
Upper Gornal St Peter
Staffordshire
 
Status: widower 

Occ Fitter
 
Address Dudley Union Workhouse

[PRBaker]

John,

You're my kind of person... a sense of humor. THANKS.

This is my biological great grandfather. He apparently had some issues. When his landlord passed away in the late 1890's he became a homeless person. Before that who knows? He may have been an alcoholic or abusive which caused phoebe's separation, speculation.

There are records from the workhouse in 1899 with statements that he was admission: "found wondering on the street" , "no friends whatever", "discharged: "own desire" and another admission: "no friends". His trail seems to end with the 1901 info.

The "widower" is a strange one that I haven't figured out. Phoebe was a "widow" when she entered the US. Possibly a status of convenience!

It's amazing how much information that I have found in just two years. I have the Internet and folks like you to thank.
Pete

No problem Pete, it's keeping me out of the pub and the wife is delighted 

This might be James in 1901

Name: James Rule
Age: 57
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Sedgley
Upper Gornal St Peter
Staffordshire
 
Status: widower 

Occ Fitter
 
Address Dudley Union Workhouse

[sancti]

I wonder if it was his brother John who married in 1869. This is 1871 census


John Rule 27 Head  born: Scotland occ Fitter and Turner
Harriet Rule 25  born: Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, England
Harriet Emma Rule 6 Months daur born: East, Staffordshire, England

Address 43 High Park Road Harborne Smethwick Worcestershire


I can't find any trace of the parents John and Margaret and wonder if they died in England before the 1871 census

[Piglet01]

Hello sancti,

I bow my head in your direction....   I too could find no deaths in Scotland.  Can you find them on the 1871 in Dudley, Worcester.?  A polite suggestion? 

I went looking for a Margaret of the correct age from 1861 to 1910 and there are only 19.  The only one I could find was a Margaret Rule,  deaths, Sept 1876  age 58 District Dudley Vol 6c  page 52. 

Then had a look for male deaths in Dudley in the same time frame, and could only find the one.  A John  who dies March 1880,  District Dudley, Vol 6c, page 73.

Might have nothing to do with the couple but you never know.

Am at work so have limited access to PC for the next week.

Regards,   Steve