Penboyr Parish Births /Marriages

[emlyn]

Where should i look for evidence of birth of
Daniel Thomas born abt 1819 in Penboyr, and
Mary Evans born abt 1828 in Trelech, also their marriage probably between1850 and 1860

[CaroleW]

Hi

www.freebmd.org.uk for BMD info

There are a number that match but there is this one in 1852

Marriages March qtr 1852 
 
Mary Evans and Jane Thomas on the same page as Daniel Thomas 
Carmarthen  11a 649   
 

[emlyn]

Thank you i should have thought of free B M D. Any ideas on how i should progress on finding confirmation of their births.
Thanks for all your help

[trish1120]

Hi emlyn,
You need the Marriage Cert to confirm both their Fathers names and occp's.
The IGI has at least 33 Daniels Christened in the right time frame.

It also looks like he was Married previously also to a Hannah.
You may already know this but Mary EVANS is a Servant in his Household in 1851 Census . Daniel is a Widower by then with his youngest Child aged 10mths named James ;
HO107/2482/223/9

1841 Census we have;
Daniel THOMAS, 25, Farmer
Hanah, 25
Mary, 6
Benjamin, 4
Sarah, 2
All born in County
HO107/1383/22/Penboyr

Death Reg;
Hannah THOMAS, June 1850, Newt Emlyn, 26 534

Trish

[osprey]

been working along the same lines, Trish. I think Daniel's birth is earlier than 1819. That's the age that shows in the 1871 census, but 1851 has him as 38 and 67 in 1881. Another problem is that there are no baptisms showing for his children in Penboyr which could mean that they were non-conformists.

[trish1120]

Thanks Osprey.
Great minds think alike

[emlyn]

Yes i believe that Daniel Thomas was non conformist.
Thanks for your help

[osprey]

ahh, that can be a problem.

No chapel listed on the Genuki page that is old enough for Daniel's birth. Not all registers were surrendered at the start of civil registration. The ones that were are transcribed here
http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk/index.php
No sign of Daniel's children. Without a father's name, difficult to know if any of the Daniels could be yours. They may have attended a chapel in a neighbouring parish.
Not all non-conformists practice infant baptism, Baptists don't, but there are sometimes naming lists that babies appear on, but not always.

Anyway, the marriage cert is the place to start. That should give you names of their fathers and the denomination of the place of worship may be a clue.

 

[osprey]

right, I've found some wills at the NLW

http://cat.llgc.org.uk/cgi-bin/gw/chameleon?skin=profeb&lng=en

search for Penclawdd in the diocese of St David's. One of Daniel's brothers, Benjamin died in 1838. Daniel was the youngest according to his father's (James) will. There's mention of leaving money to Drefach (?) meeting house.

Off to read the wills!