Pepper and Richardson

[toni*]

yes that would make sense Groom

i have foudn John & Susan in 1881 and they only had a son John with them

RG11; 1022;  28;  5

ditto 1891

RG12; 759; 22; 5

[groom]

So we are left with Patience, daughter of George and Jane, who looks like the right one. Just need to find her and the family in the censuses.

[toni*]

if she was Patience Elizabeth I have found an Elizabeth Richardson in 1881 a servant here
RG11; 1040; 7;: 9;

Trying to rule out that she is not an Elizabeth in 1871

I tried a different way and looked for Richardson b. Hastings 1868 +/- 2 years exact matches only on the UK census

1871 shows 7
Allice [sic]
Anna
Patience
Robert
Charles
Ellen
Patience E

1881 also shows 7
Elizabeth
Anna
Hester A
Robert
Charles J
Ellen
Ellen

1891 again shows 7
Annie
Robert
Charles James
Charlotte
Ellen
Alfred
George  

But the 1901 shows 12 some of whom I expect married a Richardson
Sarah A
Annie
Elizabeth
Jessie
Robert
William  
Matilda
Charles
Charlotte
Charlotte
Ellen
Edward

[groom]

I wonder if she was calling herself Elizabeth in 1881?

Elizabeth Richardson  aged 15  Domestic Servant  born Hastings.

In the house of John F Mockett and family at 95 Sea Side Eastbourne.

RG 11/1040/7/9

Same idea, toni. Ii couldn't find any called Patience either. However there is no Elizabeth after 1881 either. 

[groom]

This isn't making any sense. 

We know that a Patience Elizabeth Richardson died in Hastings in 1941, so where is she between 1871 and then? She doesn't appear on any census, not even the last one.

[toni*]

I wonder if she was married in 1891 although her death shouldn’t be registered as Patience E Richardson

[toni*]

Groom she doesn’t appear to travel anywhere either
Could she be in an asylum / institution although she should still be enumerated? Maybe under her initials.
I did look for just Patience b. 1868 +/- 2 years but nothing that’s positively her and there are some Patience Richardsons but not born the right year and plenty of Elizabeth’s as you can imagine!

[groom]

According to Freebmd there are only 3 marriages of a Patience Richardson between 1890 and 1906, none in Sussex. So doesn't look as if she married.

[toni*]

ok so we think she didnt marry and that is her death in Hastings under the name Richardson and her middle name as Elizabeth so it is possible that is her on the 1881 & 1891 census but then what?
i think perhaps the death cert. might reveal some clues with the name of the informant and p.o.d

one other thought she could be with a married sister sibling as sister and enumarated under that surname