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'Black' and 'Gushler / Gieschler' family, Ontario
« on: Thursday 03 February 11 21:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi there

Have hit a brick wall with the following; hoping for any assistance that's out there!

John Black b. Cavan, Ireland 1 Jan 1874 arrived 1880, married Margaret (Maggie) Gushler/Giescher/Gieschler/Geischler (!) on 9 Jul 1897 in Oxford, Ontario.
She was born 2 Nov 1867 in East Zorra Township, to Henry Gieschler and Anna Maria Gerhardt.

Children:
Isabella Barbara Black b. 27 Dec 1897 in London, Ontario
Clarence B Black b. 1 Jan 1900 in Middx. Ont.
Frederick John Black b. 23 Mar 1903 in Middx. Ont.

Last record of them all together is via the Automated Genealogy site - 1911 Census has them living in Strathroy, Ont.
Clarence enlisted in the CEF as a driver - despite being 15! - in 135 Batt.
Trail has run cold! Can't get anywhere! Any ideas? Cheers....Matt
Flenley, Black, Gieschler, Blathwayt, Flannery, Flannelly

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Re: 'Black' and 'Gushler / Gieschler' family, Ontario
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 February 11 22:26 GMT (UK) »
Not sure if this sort of thing is what you are after exactly but it's a start and I will scout around to see what else I can find  :)

1901 Canadian Census

John Black 27 Gardener b. 1 Jan 1874, Ireland (wow, your lucky to get all the birth dates on the census)
Margaret Black 33 b 2 Nov 87, (interesting, she put Ontario) but her race is German
Isabella Black 3 b 27 Dec 1897, Ontario
Clarence Black 11 months b. 1 May 1900, Ontario

still living in Strathroy
Ellis, Coll, Ward, Toovey, Tait, Stone, Fowler, Stephenson, Dry, Townsend, Walters, Grainger,

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Re: 'Black' and 'Gushler / Gieschler' family, Ontario
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 February 11 22:52 GMT (UK) »
Cheers! Any help along these lines is brilliant!
Flenley, Black, Gieschler, Blathwayt, Flannery, Flannelly

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Re: 'Black' and 'Gushler / Gieschler' family, Ontario
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 February 11 23:31 GMT (UK) »
marriage details which gives his parents too  ;D

Black, John, aged 23, b Ireland, Lived in London, Bach, Laborer, Father Randall Black, Mother Annie
Geeschler, Margaret, aged 25, b. E. Zorra, Lived in Nissowi?, spinster, Father: Henryy Geeschler mother Mary
Ellis, Coll, Ward, Toovey, Tait, Stone, Fowler, Stephenson, Dry, Townsend, Walters, Grainger,


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Re: 'Black' and 'Gushler / Gieschler' family, Ontario
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 February 11 21:18 GMT (UK) »
Isabella Barbara Black Birth  27 Dec 1897 London, Middlesex, Ontario
John Black/  Margaret Geeschler
Clarence B Black Birth May 1 1900  Strathroy, Middlesex, Ontario
 John Black/ Maggie Gieschler
http://search.labs.familysearch.org

I see perhaps they might have lost parents young as she is with a Hohn family in 1881
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008198802.jpg
Mary HOHN  ( marked as head?) b. 1838 Ont. head of household...she and all in house are German descent /Lutheran born Ontario 1881 census  Zorra East, Oxford North, Ontario
Elizabeth HOHN age 6   Conrad HOHN  age4
Catherine GISLER 1862
Margaret GISLER 1865
John GISLER  1868
Henry GISLER  1870
Barbbra GISLER 1872

Previous household says Henry Hohn same age as Mary


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Re: 'Black' and 'Gushler / Gieschler' family, Ontario
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 February 11 22:03 GMT (UK) »
GISCHLER, Anna M. (Gerhardt)      http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/search.php
Trinity Evangelical Lutheran, Sebastopol cemetery /Perth/Easthope South/reference   PH-310-0
also listed under same reference  are:    Heinrich GISCHLER,  Henry J. GISCHLER ,  Henry V. GISCHLER
Annie B. GISCHLER,  Matilda E. (Hohner) GISCHLER,   Elmer C. GISCHLER, Barbara GISCHLER
 Irene E. M. M.  GISCHLER, Luella V. GISCHLER,  Valentine J. GISCHLER

Some with same spelling in Hay Township...& in McTavish cemetery

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Re: 'Black' and 'Gushler / Gieschler' family, Ontario
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 February 11 22:10 GMT (UK) »
Magic! Will track those down...
Flenley, Black, Gieschler, Blathwayt, Flannery, Flannelly

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Re: 'Black' and 'Gushler / Gieschler' family, Ontario
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 February 11 22:20 GMT (UK) »
so in 1861 GISCHLER 1861 census waterloo county/wilmot township / Lutheran
GISCHLER Kunikunda * female age  63  ( 1798) Hessen widow
GISCHLER Heinrich age 29 ( 1832)  Hessen labourer 
GISCHLER Anna age 18  9 1843) Hessen

also using that surname lots more to find here http://search.labs.familysearch.org
sample of what's available in there:
Valentine Gischler  Male
Birth 22 Apr 1902 East Zorra, Oxford, Ontario, Canada
Henry V. Gischler / Matilda Hohner
Canada Births and Baptisms, 1661-1959

(http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maryc/oxford01p2.htm has marriage of John Metz & t Barbara)
William Henry Metz
Birth 05 May 1904 South Easthope Township, Perth, Ontario
John Metz & Barbara Gischler
 

* Lots of Kunigunda Geisler in the U.S. so that might be proper spelling? Apparently named derived from:  Kunigunda was a German saint, the wife of Heinrich, the last king of the royal house of Saxony, also a saint.

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Re: 'Black' and 'Gushler / Gieschler' family, Ontario
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 05 February 11 00:37 GMT (UK) »
This explains the home in 1881
Andreas Hahn 26 ( Conrad Hahn/Barbary Hahn)
Mary Gischler  36 ( John Gerhardt & Catherine)
married June 22 1874 South Easthope, Perth, Ontario

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