soooooo confused!!!

[rachelralph]

thank you both for all your help. i am learning so much from you guys. unfortunaltey funds are scarce at the moment (arent they for everyone lol!) so ordering the certifcate is going to have to wait for the time being.

i have read extensively about the swing riots, as there is another ancestor who was involved in these, although he was from wiltshire not hampshire. i will give that reading a go dee-jay thanks.

[Little Nell]

i am wondering whether anyone could look prehaps for a birth of james hale born abt 1838 rather than lasham or bone.

Tried that too - several times.  I did find one in 1840, where the mother's name was Lucy and the father was John William Hale, but it was in Hurstbourne Tarrant, clear across the other side of the county and the couple were apparently from London. 

There is a James Bone, son of Henry & Eliza, baptised in 1838 in Selborne as well as one in 1835, whose parents are Eli & Mary.  Henry & Eliza had two other children born in 1830s who were baptised in Selborne.

Nell

[rachelralph]

the james bone born to eli and mary is james lasham's/bone/hale ( ) brother in law. ie james bone 1835 is jane bones brother!
i'm not sure of the other one yet, i may have him in my tree too! the bone side of the family i have already researched quiet well as james lasham married jane bone, and so i have looked at her tree a bit already.

[rachelralph]

just relised too, by posting that baptism of james bone born to eli and mary you have halted another train of thought i was on lol.  i have james bone in my tree with his parents eli and mary but i didnt have his birth confirmed. i was wondering this morning whether eli and mary just brough james up as james bone and he was really james lasham. but now that you have confirmed the baptism this cant be

[rachelralph]

just to make things even more confusing some of the children of eli bone and mary ended up living in lasham! i think im going crazy with the whole lasham bone thing now

[dee-jay]

just to make things even more confusing ....

Here's another BONE of contention [couldn't resist the pun!]:

Selborne Marriage
No 1.   July 1st 1837
Wm BONE 22 Bachelor Lab of Selborne  Father:  Wm BICKNELL Lab
Lucy LASHAM 28 Spinster of Selborne Father:    31
The mark of Wm BONE             Wm COBBOLD Vicar
The mark of Lucy LASHAM
Witnesses:  The mark of Wm BICKNELL;  Timothy LOE [sgd]

The Vicar failed to record any details of Lucy's father!   

His likely burial at Selborne:
No 247 19 Sep 1830 James LASHAM 51 years

Likely burial of James junr:
No 107 08 Apr 1821 James LASHAM 14 years

[dee-jay]

Lucy Hale still married, rather than widowed, with three daughters Eliza, Ellen and Elizabeth are still in Selborne in 1861 - RG9/705/137 p 6 Short Heath.

Got no idea where James may have been. 

And even less idea what explanation there might be for all this. 

Nell

Next entry to Lucy's family, Thomas HEATH who married Mary Ann LASHAM 2Q 1853 Alton 2c 245 and in their household is 'Brother' James HALE do [ie married - sic] aged 24.

In 1851 Sarah LASHAM aged 19 is a servant with Hori HALE, Farmer aged 72 in Selborne.  HO107 piece 1679 folio 238 page 1.  He had married, as a Widower, 25 Jul 1838 Sarah LUNN, daughter of Henry LUNN, Farmer.

Hori HALE died in 1855 and HRO has his will on microfiche so I'll take a look at it next time.  Ref: 1855A/039
 

[rachelralph]

oh my! my head is so blurred with names and dates now! so do we think (and i really do respect your opinion here) thatlucy borrowed the name hale. or did she prehaps marry a hale?

[Little Nell]

Can't find any trace of Lucy marrying a Hale.  But there again she married a chap apparently called Bone whose father was William Bicknell.  So Lucy was perhaps not the only one who was weaving a tangled web. 

Nell