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Re: Photos of Liverpool Kings Regiment WW1
« Reply #9 on: Monday 14 February 11 10:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi H2C

That number was used by a number of KLR battalions, and none of them appear to have entered France in May 1915. But the post card is the key. It gives his battalion as the 4th. They were pre-war Special Reservists (ie part-timers) who became full-time at the start of WW1. They went to France in March 1915, so he was a later replacement.

I can tell you that 10387 was issued in the 3rd/4th Battalions in August 1913, so 10912 have been issued near the start of WW1. It may even have been issued before WW1 started.

Their uniform was very similar to most of the other battalions. Only the shoulder titles were different. So search for Liverpool Regiment or KLR and you will find something. You should ignore the Rifles (6th Battalion), Liverpool Irish (8th), Liverpool Scottish (10th) and the Liverpool Pals (17th to 20th Battalions).

Ken


Thanks for this Ken,

So he was in the army before WW1 began ?

He died in January 1924 age 44.  His DC gives the cause of his death as:
" myocardial degeneration accelerated by being gassed in the late war"

I remember my mother telling me he never fully recovered after being gassed in the trenches.

He was relatively old when WW1 began, would this be why he was in the reserves perhaps ?

HG2

PS.  So I need to pray that somebody just might have a photo of the 4th Battalion !
PPS.  I notice the postcard also says:  B Coy.... am I interpreting  that correct ?  So he was in B Coy 4th Battalion ?

PPPS... Sorry, last Q.  Pte... Is that short for - Private ?

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Re: Photos of Liverpool Kings Regiment WW1
« Reply #10 on: Monday 14 February 11 11:25 GMT (UK) »
I've found him on the National Museums Website.  But nothing happens when I click on "order Results.

C&P'd
Surname   Initials   First name   Rank   Number
WELSBY   WH       PRIVATE           10912
Order results by   
Page 1 of 1

This might only get me the service card, which I already have.
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Re: Photos of Liverpool Kings Regiment WW1
« Reply #11 on: Monday 14 February 11 18:30 GMT (UK) »
Pte is short for Private. B Company was one of four company of about 250 men each.

He may have enlisted before WW1, or maybe at the start. If you have Ancestry and 2-3 hours I can tell you how you can try and find out.

Ken

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Re: Photos of Liverpool Kings Regiment WW1
« Reply #12 on: Monday 14 February 11 18:46 GMT (UK) »
Hello Harry`sgirl2, most of the time solders were not exactly sure where they were and the phrase   "Somewhere in France"was used even when they were in Belgium.
I imagine it was a security issue in case mail got into enemy hands.
I forgot to say that the info re searching for your  soldier via The Kings Regiment at Ardwick Green was given to me from the Regimental Museum in Liverpool.So they ought to be able to help because even though the amalgamation was 1958 the records go right back.
Sadly the museum was under threat of closure. Google it and see what comes up. Good luck.
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Re: Photos of Liverpool Kings Regiment WW1
« Reply #13 on: Monday 14 February 11 18:52 GMT (UK) »
Hello Harry`sgirl2, most of the time solders were not exactly sure where they were and the phrase   "Somewhere in France"was used even when they were in Belgium.
I imagine it was a security issue in case mail got into enemy hands.
I forgot to say that the info re searching for your  soldier via The Kings Regiment at Ardwick Green was given to me from the Regimental Museum in Liverpool.So they ought to be able to help because even though the amalgamation was 1958 the records go right back.
Sadly the museum was under threat of closure. Google it and see what comes up. Good luck.
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It's survived !

Regimental Museum in Liverpool


The Museum of Liverpool Life and the King’s Regiment Museum closed on 4th June 2006. The new Museum of Liverpool opens at the Pier Head, Liverpool in 2011. It will feature the King’s Regiment collection and a First World War experience gallery. Archive inquiries should be sent to the Regimental Headquarters at citysecliv@lancs.army.mod.uk


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King's Regiment Museum Collection
Museum of Liverpool Life,
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Liverpool,
L3 1PZ
Tel: 0151 478 4065
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Re: Photos of Liverpool Kings Regiment WW1
« Reply #14 on: Monday 14 February 11 19:25 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much, I never paid a visit sadly.
I`ll certainly make an effort now though.
I wonder if men were photographed individually when they enlisted ?
Otherwise how would you know which was him on a full Regimental photo?
Isn`t it frustrating when you have no photos.I hope you succeed in your quest.    Viktoria.

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Re: Photos of Liverpool Kings Regiment WW1
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 24 March 13 14:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi Viktoria

I know this is an old subject but i would just like to ask.

You said you dad went to france in Feb 1917 and you had a large photo of the regiment, can i just ask if he was in the 5th battalion by any chance.

Thank you

Colin

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Re: Photos of Liverpool Kings Regiment WW1
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 10 January 23 14:00 GMT (UK) »
Colin, so sorry this is so late , my father was in The 2/7 th King’s Liverpool.
Number 269558, so sorry to have missed replying to you.
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Re: Photos of Liverpool Kings Regiment WW1
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 10 January 23 18:48 GMT (UK) »
Colin, so sorry this is so late , my father was in The 2/7 th King’s Liverpool.
Number 269558, so sorry to have missed replying to you.
Viktoria.

You should have the Photo of Wilfred in his Army Uniform included onto the Devereux Database of the King's Liverpool Regt
The Touch Screen Database is at the base of the Medal Tower of the King's Regt Display area on the 1st Floor in the Corner area at the Museum of Liverpool Life at the Pier Head
Joe Devereux and Member of my King's Liverpool Regt Facebook Group he runs the Database and no doubt has all the Military Records of Wilfred on his Database
There were 4 pages on my Granddad in 1/7th King's till he added my photo submitted of him.
I see 21 pages 9991 to 10012 of 10231 of the Burnt Attestation papers have Survived on Wilfred
Including his letter to the Army about the Blood Transfusion he gave that saved a Soldier before he himself became a POW
CHAPMAN ROBINSON McKAY O'MALLEY