HANDY marriage

[Hill]

Hi All

I can tie up a few loose ends.

Philippe Handy married Ester de St Croix on 18th Dec 1844 in the Parish of St Brelades. He was 24 years old, a boulanger, born and living in St. Helier. His father was John Handy, a marin. Ester was 23 years old with no occupation, born and also living in St Helier. Her father was Jean de St Croix, a macon. (Ref: St Brelade marriages, Oct 1842 to Jan 1864, page 19).

Ester de St Croix, wife of Philippe Handy died at 3am. 6th Apr 1860 at 13, Kensington Place, St Helier. She was aged 39 years and died from Phthisie. Philippe Handy was present at the death. (Ref: St Helier deaths, Dec 1858 to May 1860, volume 13, page 92).

Philippe Handy died 10th Aug 1871 at 1 Park Lane, St Helier aged 51 years. He also died from Phthisie and Philippe Handy was present at his death (presumably his son). (Ref: St Helier deaths, Feb 1871 to Apr 1872, volume 22, page 32).

George Handy died 10am 7th Feb 1858 at Cheapside, St Helier, aged 2 months. He died from convulsions and Elizabeth Masters was present at the death. (ref: St Helier deaths, Jul 1857 to Dec 1858, volume 12, page 46).

I have searched the St Helier deaths for Mary Ann Handy from 1851 to 1861 and found nothing. Likewise I have search St Helier marriages from 1860 to 1871 and could not find another marriage for Philippe. To be on the safe side I should search the other Parishes but I'm afraid this will have to wait for another visit.

Stewart

[J.J.]

1841 Maybe? John De Ste. Croix age 55 Mason
Elizabeth age 55   Margaret age 16

so that may be Esther De Ste. Croix in a previous entry age 25, so she possibly may have gotten younger for the marriage. 

You can look through the 1841 census here...The blue numbered links are all St. Helier
http://members.shaw.ca/Jerseymaid/helier27.html
Note that Phillipe was living next to bakers in 1841 http://members.shaw.ca/Jerseymaid/helier17.html
The only other Handy I see in St. Helier 1841 is a 5 year old unnamed male
http://members.shaw.ca/jerseymaid/helier1.html

Perhaps your ancestor receiving award? although I see now there were several Jean/John
http://www.rnli.org.uk/rnli_near_you/southwest/stations/StHelierJerseyCI/history

[J.J.]

By the way that was pretty awesome of you to go do those lookups, Stewart!

That census entry would match Carole's find in 1861 if the age for Elizabeth was around 20 years older and it said "grand" daughter... 
"Elizabeth de St Croy 48 widow innkeeper" in reply 2

and more wrenches to throw into the works
Might that boy be William who has wife Mary of various spelling of surnames, with twins and 3 other children in the baptisms
family shown here in 1881
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1881BR_5828970

and have you seen the fellow in Quebec, John Handy, b. 1817 Channel Islands perhaps another son of mariner John
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1881CN_949012

Maybe Carole can rule this fellow "Andey" in or out through the earlier census
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1881BR_5829228

[J.J.]

aha, John Handy a farmer in 1881 Quebec, but he was once a navigator!
John Handy from Jersey to Québec in 1850, to Gaspé in 1854, navigator, Married J Le Mesurier.
http://www.guernsey-society.org.uk/donkipedia/index.php5?title=Jersey_emigrants_to_Canada_H
( The other entry is his daughter who was born Quebec, so they got that one wrong)

Someone searching out this John....You'll be able to help with information now, if these all pan out to be yours...
http://genforum.genealogy.com/handy/messages/777.html

[Hill]

Hi

Death for Mary Ann Handy in St Lawrence, 19th Dec 1853 aged 19 years. Died from "dentition". Philippe Handy was present at the death. (Ref: St Lawrence Parish deaths, Aug 1842 to Apr 1854, page 91).

Just a potential marriage for Philippe between 1860 and 1871 to finish.

Stewart

[Hill]

Hi

First of all a correction. I can't tell my "ans" from my "mons". The age of Mary Ann Handy at her death should be 19 months, not years!!

There is no further marriage recorded for Philippe between 1860 and 1871.

Stewart

[J.J.]

Some answers re: "dentition"  I had to look
http://jdr.sagepub.com/content/88/9/777.full
http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=109&t=5932&hilit=

[casslass]

To everyone who searched and took their precious time to find this information for me, I thank you very much. I am sorry that I haven't thanked you before now but as I said to J.J. life just got in the way.  I am going to to mull over all of this to fill in many blanks.  Thank you once again.